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"Eiffel 3 ATARI for 1040 ST, STE, Mega ST, STE, TT.joska wrote:Eiffel is PS/2, not USB.
Is this new Lightning VME you are making just a single USB port or multiple where mouse and keyboard can be connected?czietz wrote:As far as I know, there is no keyboard driver for the NetUSBee. USB mice will work, though.
We might in the future provide a USB keyboard driver for the Lightning VME USB card we're developing. However, please note that it would still need loading a driver, so for example you cannot abort the TOS memory test with it, because at that point no driver is loaded.
The Eiffel on the other hand will convert from PS/2 to the Atari keyboard protocol, so it'll work without a driver.
Lightning VME has two USB ports but it supports USB hubs for expansion as well USB mass storage such as USB sticks. However, please note that as far as input devices go right now only mice are supported; keyboard support is still on the wish list for the future -- as mentioned in my previous post.AtariSociety wrote: Is this new Lightning VME you are making just a single USB port or multiple where mouse and keyboard can be connected?
Will it also support USB sticks to read and write to/from?
TJ
CosmosEx. But you need to buy it second-hand, it's currently not in production.AtariSociety wrote:Is there actually such a thing.... USB keyboard to Atari?
Do you have an example of a USB->PS/2 adapter that actually translates from USB to PS/2?Foxie wrote:There do exist inexpensive USB to PS/2 adapters which you could use with a PS/2 to Atari converter.
This is a very small problem. A much bigger problem is the fact that USB keyboards does not have the proper layout for Ataris. I've been using PC keyboards with my Ataris on and off since 1995 but still prefer the original. Better layout and better looksFoxie wrote:A potential problem with replacing the Atari keyboard: you lose support for uploaded keyboard firmware. I don't know how many programs do this, certainly not many. The most likely use for uploaded keyboard firmware is in games and especially demos.
Looks like I was mistaken about their availability. I found one link to a StarTech device which did the translation, but it's a broken link now. It's going the other way - PS/2 to USB - which is well provided for with Chinese products.joska wrote: Do you have an example of a USB->PS/2 adapter that actually translates from USB to PS/2?
Me too. Luckily, I still have my Mega ST keyboard in fully working condition. I prefer the look of the Mega STE/TT keyboard, but I hear the action isn't as good.joska wrote: A much bigger problem is the fact that USB keyboards does not have the proper layout for Ataris. I've been using PC keyboards with my Ataris on and off since 1995 but still prefer the original. Better layout and better looks
On the contrary. There is very little difference in feel between the Mega and ST keyboards. The TT/MSTE keyboard is way better than both.Foxie wrote:Me too. Luckily, I still have my Mega ST keyboard in fully working condition. I prefer the look of the Mega STE/TT keyboard, but I hear the action isn't as good.
I have an ST keyboard inside a Mega ST keyboard case so it should be possibleFoxie wrote:Any idea if it's feasible to fit a MegaST keyboard mechanism into a standard 1040ST? I love the look of the 1040, but hate the action.
It would require some work though, since the Mega keyboard PCB does not have the mouse/joystick ports in the correct location for an STF case. That's strange, my Mega ST keyboard is definitely miles better than the 1040ST keyboard! I think it has mechanical keyswitches for each key rather than a spongey membrane. The 1040ST is like typing on a slice of cake! The MegaST's keys don't click like the Amiga or IBM Model M, but they have a smooth non-spongey travel and a firm bottoming out.joska wrote: On the contrary. There is very little difference in feel between the Mega and ST keyboards. The TT/MSTE keyboard is way better than both.
In the feature list it says "Ready for use with Atari ST (requires additional adapters)". Strangely there's no mention of USB keyboards there, so I'm wondering if there was a typo in the first link and it's only for USB mice and joysticks...Native USB HID controller for mice, joysticks or pads. Compatible with Amiga, AtariST and Commodore C64. Built-in USB stack which enables USB HID devices support without the need for installing additional software drivers. The first adapter that lets you connect real USB devices, not only peripherals with the rare "USB to PS/2" specification.
Gossuin has a Smallymouse2 adapter. I've bought a few and within power limits (borderline using just the mouse port) they work well with the USB mice I've thrown at them.Foxie wrote:I'm sure I've seen someone selling a device which used a USB MCU to convert a USB mouse to the Atari.
Do you know what the current limit for the mouse port is? It appears Atari didn't fuse the 1040ST, and I can't see a series resistor on the schematic. The MegaSTE appears to have a 0.5A fuse, so I'm guessing you might be able to draw 0.3-0.4A?troed wrote: Gossuin has a Smallymouse2 adapter. I've bought a few and within power limits (borderline using just the mouse port) they work well with the USB mice I've thrown at them.