Bad Mood : Falcon030 'Doom'

[dml]

I do notice a problem quitting the game. I've never had a clean exit - each time I try to quit, my Falc hangs.

You're right. I saw it also.

There have always been some cleanup issues, some of which got fixed - but following some recent change it now quits with a bad screenbase and shows garbage. Will look at it before the next update.

[Scarlettkitten]

Wow what can I say Doug, I can't believe how smooth you've got this to run on the 16MHz machine, and the intro music and the attract mode is so cool. FaNtAsTiC and I saw my name

[dml]

Wow what can I say Doug, I can't believe how smooth you've got this to run on the 16MHz machine, and the intro music and the attract mode is so cool. FaNtAsTiC and I saw my name

Great! Glad it worked for you

A few more improvements are on the way but I'll try to gather them together and avoid too many updates.

Beware a missing music track causing the game to abort on e3m2 (or one of those later levels). Should have that patched before anyone gets that far

[Zamuel_a]

I still can't get it to work. I deleted all the old files so it unpacked to a new directory. The music conversion (which took about 30 minutes) seems to work and after that I restarted and it got stucked at "I_InitSound".

I have the WAD from ultimate doom 1.9
I use ICD v6.5.5 harddisk program with a CF card.
Nothing in the AUTO folder. I don't have anything that loads since I haven't installed anything really.

I am running from drive D, so it's not C if that has something to do with it.

[dml]

I still can't get it to work. I deleted all the old files so it unpacked to a new directory. The music conversion (which took about 30 minutes) seems to work and after that I restarted and it got stucked at "I_InitSound".

I have the WAD from ultimate doom 1.9
I use ICD v6.5.5 harddisk program with a CF card.
Nothing in the AUTO folder. I don't have anything that loads since I haven't installed anything really.

I am running from drive D, so it's not C if that has something to do with it.

Ok thanks for that info. It should run from D but I will test this tonight to be sure.

I'll have a look around I_InitSound again and may PM you with some tests?

[dml]

Does anyone know if ICD harddisk driver uses MFP Timers A,C or D hooks? Or if it hooks the VBL? Anything like that?

I'm wondering if there's a timer resource confict between ICD and BadMood's low-level setup code.

[mikro]

Does anyone know if ICD harddisk driver uses MFP Timers A,C or D hooks? Or if it hooks the VBL? Anything like that?

Don't know about ICD but generally speaking, you should avoid using Timer C whenever possible. Except the fact it's used by the OS I'm pretty sure HD DRivers uses it too.

Btw, what about making that init generator as a ttp? In such case everybody could prepare it in say, Aranym or on a faster machine in advance and not to wait for an hour on the poor std 16 MHz configuration :)

[Dal]

I'm using hddriver with caches set as low as possible. BM ran from g:\Games\Badmood and H:\Badmood

So I don't think it's anything to do with where it's run from.

I'm tempted to pull out the spare machine and set up a hard disk with ICD just to see if your hunch is right Doug. Not going to happen before next week though as I have a busy few days and nights coming up.

[Eero Tamminen]

I still can't get it to work. I deleted all the old files so it unpacked to a new directory. The music conversion (which took about 30 minutes) seems to work and after that I restarted and it got stucked at "I_InitSound".

I have the WAD from ultimate doom 1.9
I use ICD v6.5.5 harddisk program with a CF card.
Nothing in the AUTO folder. I don't have anything that loads since I haven't installed anything really.

I am running from drive D, so it's not C if that has something to do with it.

At least in Hatari, running BM from a subdirectory on D: works fine (as does starting from different standard screen modes). Do you have some desktop environment that gets automatically started or ACCs?

[ctirad]

I have some news. I tried two more LCD panels and both of them say "out of range" on the title screen, however they display the actual game correctly. The good news is that no random line skipping is noticeable on these monitors and thus it is really a sync issue and you can forget that.

BTW, I run the game from D:/games/falcon/badmood/ directory on the real Falcon without any problem. I use hddriver with the default settings. I think the Zamuel_a problem is either ICD or more probably the CF card itself. Using the CF adapter is not 100% safe, because its 3.3V logic is not strong enough to drive 5V falcon BUS. On the overclocked Falcons the CF adapters usually do not work at all.

[Zamuel_a]

BTW, I run the game from D:/games/falcon/badmood/ directory on the real Falcon without any problem. I use hddriver with the default settings. I think the Zamuel_a problem is either ICD or more probably the CF card itself. Using the CF adapter is not 100% safe, because its 3.3V logic is not strong enough to drive 5V falcon BUS. On the overclocked Falcons the CF adapters usually do not work at all.

The previous version of BadMood was running without any problems.

[Scarlettkitten]

Just so you know I was using PPera's Falcon IDE driver with a 4GB CF card and ran it from C Drive. and it ran fine.

[dml]

Just so you know I was using PPera's Falcon IDE driver with a 4GB CF card and ran it from C Drive. and it ran fine.

Ok thanks (and everyone else) for trying stuff.

I've sent a modified version to Zamuel which leaves the system TimerC intact, so we'll find out by next week if it helped.

I do suspect some funny business with ICD. I used to have that driver but nomore.

[ctirad]

The previous version of BadMood was running without any problems.

That does not prove anything. The CF card could work 99.9% of the time correctly and then screw the whole partition data in the rest of the time. A don't forget that Beta processes mutiple amount of data on the harddrive.

[DarkLord]

I do suspect some funny business with ICD. I used to have that driver but no more.

Those are free for download Doug.

icdp655a.zip

Not sure if that's the absolute latest version though.

[dml]

I recently added 'classic' gameplay mode back in so the vertical axis is locked and auto-aiming is done for you vertically, like the original.

(set 'freelook' to 0 in the config file, otherwise it defaults to quake-mode)

I'll keep back this and other changes until I better understand what happened on Zamuel's box.

[dml]

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icdp655a.zip

Not sure if that's the absolute latest version though.

No that's quite helpful - I'll give it a spin later on and see if I get the same problem.

[Scarlettkitten]

I recently added 'classic' gameplay mode back in so the vertical axis is locked and auto-aiming is done for you vertically, like the original.

(set 'freelook' to 0 in the config file, otherwise it defaults to quake-mode)

I'll keep back this and other changes until I better understand what happened on Zamuel's box.

I like the manual aiming, gives it more of a challenge

[Dal]

Agreed - but I find myself wanting a crosshair at least.

[dml]

Agreed - but I find myself wanting a crosshair at least.

Yes, you may be right about that. Will put it on the list (and configurable)

[dml]

I have some news. I tried two more LCD panels and both of them say "out of range" on the title screen, however they display the actual game correctly. The good news is that no random line skipping is noticeable on these monitors and thus it is really a sync issue and you can forget that.

This is interesting.

It is true that I hacked the vertical refresh down quite a bit to release bus cycles for most of the video modes, but the titles do seem to upset some displays in various ways - and completely shut off the projector at SillyVenture so it probably needs adjustment...

[Dal]

Curiously it doesn't work when I activate the Phantom either.

[dml]

Curiously it doesn't work when I activate the Phantom either.

Is the DSP accelerated? What is the new ratio of mhz between cpu/bus/dsp?

[Dal]

Sorry - I should have been more specific. It appears to run (I hear the music), but the display mode goes somewhere my LCD panel isn't happy.

With the Phantom activated, the CPU and BUS gets 25Mhz, the DSP gets 50Mhz and the Videl gets boosted too (50Mhz as well I think?).

I don't have a tool to benchmark it with (is there one?).

[dml]

Sorry - I should have been more specific. It appears to run (I hear the music), but the display mode goes somewhere my LCD panel isn't happy.

With the Phantom activated, the CPU and BUS gets 25Mhz, the DSP gets 50Mhz and the Videl gets boosted too (50Mhz as well I think?).

I don't have a tool to benchmark it with (is there one?).

Ok, I see. The displaymode messing up will be down to the bus speed changing, and the displaymodes using the 32mhz pixelclock (which is now 50mhz)

The solutions to that are:

a) implement yet another video mode for accelerated busses on VGA, and detect the bus speed (!)
b) dump the 416x240 extended video mode on VGA, and use a more vanilla one
c) just use RGB display when you have an accelerated bus

Fun

BTW the display may be blind but you may still be able to start the game - it will hop back to 320x pixels when you begin the level.