.st to real Atari STFM with STEem?

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.st to real Atari STFM with STEem?

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Hi,

Is it possible to put .st files into files that a real Atari STFM can read using STeem?

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  • mount .ST in STEem
  • use an MSA PRG to convert the mounted drive A: or B: to an .MSA
  • transfer .MSA to STFM (I use ParCopy USB)
  • write .MSA to real disk on STFM using the MSA PRG
Probably there are other/easier solutions.
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Copying the st file on your stfm, put a floppy disk in your drive then
fatcat MYFILE.ST -x A:\
may be work.
I've tried it only under Mint.

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Jay MSA archiver works with .ST files allowing viewing and unarchiving of them on the ST series. It's freeware and available at:
http://jaysoft.atariportal.cz/
Simply transfer your .ST files to the STFM, install Jaymsa there too and it should do the job. Jaymsa will also work in Steem.
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I use an older Windows 2000 XP I assign a drive on Steam to my computer's floppy format a 720 KB floppy then using the .St in disk a and drag all of its contents to the floppy icon
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I use a greaseweazle.

Connect to the PC, write the .st file to a real floppy, use it on the STFM.
It's a lot less hassle then the other ways!
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Hi,

Thanks for all the help.

How do you assign a drive on steem? Can you put .st files to regular files on a usb flash drive or sdcard on steem?

It used to be easy. I would use floimg on my windows xp pro. The windows xp pro got a blue screen of death. The replacement has a slot for a floppy drive but no data connector on the motherboard. I have a usb floppy drive. It doesn't work with floimg.

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Post by spiny »

>How do you assign a drive on steem? Can you put .st files to regular files on a usb flash drive or sdcard on steem?

1: In steam, load the .st file to drive B in the preferneces. (drive b, so that steam doesn't run whatever is on the disk at boot)

2: boot the ST

3: open drive B:

4: copy the files to a folder on your atari emulated drive C:

5: exit steam

6: in windows, go to the folder used by steam as the hard drive

7: using your usb floppy, copy the files from that folder to a disk

8: put disk in the real floppy

9: there you go.

HOWEVER

this will NOT work with games, or anything that uses hidden files , DMA etc

To save us guessing, what -exactly- are you trying to move to a real floppy?

A Greaseweazle device is probably the best option, and can be used with Win10 etc
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Hi,

Great instructions though a little bit complex.

I have a lot of pd software on a usb flash drive in .st files.

Thank you for the help,

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Post by tzok »

.ST files are regular disk images (.IMG), so you can extract them to folders on an HDD or to a DOS FDD using any disk imaging software like WinImage. This will work only with regular DOS disks. Many Atari ST disks had custom bootloaders and needed to be bootable. These won't work. Still, you can use WinImage to write ST disk image directly to a FDD, without extracting individual files. PC FDD, in most cases, can't handle more than 80 tracks, and many USB FDD support only HD (1.44 MB) diskettes.
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AtariDog wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:56 am It used to be easy. I would use floimg on my windows xp pro. The windows xp pro got a blue screen of death. The replacement has a slot for a floppy drive but no data connector on the motherboard. I have a usb floppy drive. It doesn't work with floimg.
With usb floppy drive the only thing you can do is to format floppy disk in TOS to standard 720k and then put it into USB floppy drive connected to your PC and use Total Commander or Double Commander with Jacknife plugin to extract .ST images to ST formatted floppy disk.

Anyways the easiest way to use .ST disk images with real Atari ST is to install internal or external Gotek.
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Thanks
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Hi,

What is greaseweazle like?

Thank you,

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AtariDog wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:07 am What is greaseweazle like?
It is a small pcb that connects to an atari st, amiga or pc floppy drive, and the other side is usb, and connects to a pc running windows, Linux, mac.

You then use the command line tools to write or read disk images.

You can read or write high level disk formats, .st, .adf, .img etc, or flux level disk formats, which also preserve the disk copy protection as well as the data.

So you could, for example, write an original addams family game flux level dump to a disk, and play it on a real st, without cracked versions etc.

https://github.com/keirf/greaseweazle/wiki
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Nice.

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Hi,

I have been using STEem and it is pretty good. Thank you STEem people!

Will it work with MultiTos?

Thank you,

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