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Re: NetUSBee USB drivers package v5

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Update on the problem I found:
Perdrix24 wrote:Today I found two things:

1. On TOS 1, pressing the third button of the mouse crash the computer. This is possibly because it tries to emulate the ENTER keystroke, and that any keyboard keys work only with TOS 2 and above, just like the keyboard driver. I'll look into this later.
This was caused by BigDos. It also caused a crash using the tablet, when pressing the stylus button that emulates an UNDO keystroke. When BigDos is not used, the mouse third button and stylus button work fine.
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Re: NetUSBee USB drivers package v5

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Attached is a revised USBTOOL.ACC. It now displays fine in medium and low resolution.
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Re: NetUSBee USB drivers package v5

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I like working with the graphic tablet. Is there a way to adapt the tablet driver also to the Lightning USB?
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Re: NetUSBee USB drivers package v5

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ama wrote:I like working with the graphic tablet. Is there a way to adapt the tablet driver also to the Lightning USB?
I'd expect it to work right out of the box with the Lightning VME/ST. Doesn't it?
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Re: NetUSBee USB drivers package v5

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Unfortunately not. In the usbtool.acc it is grayed out.
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What does the tablet driver output when you load it (on the computer with the Lightning VME/ST, obviously)?
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Sorry if I am bothersome, I seem to be getting ignored here, but I have an update and I will post it anyway. Maybe someone will contribute.

I have not been able to get any usb stick to read using an STF STFM MEGAST or STE until last night. Last night on a STE I was able to get a Sandisk CRUISER 1gb usb seen.
I have UltraSatan. Boots nothing in AUTO - USBTOOL.acc in root. Driver is PP hdriver. 13u. It seems that his driver does not support this buss correct?

So once booted I manually ran USB then Storage then netusb - usually I get on any 1.04 tos machine a failed to set cookie error. This time it went through.. a few times in and out with the usb the tool saw it. Loaded HDDriver Utility I have 10.17

It sees the USB on buss3. Did not like my partitions that I made on the PC. they were Fat16.. but whatever. I have gotten this far before on the STE.. but now I was able to right click on the device. partition it again.. 3 x 334 meg. Reboot.. all was seen install devices and bang for first time it was able to access the new 3 drives.

I have several nice little 128mb thumb drives I cant use for anything else.. but it seems to have a hard time with these.

I wanted this because I thought it was usable on all machines. Am I wrong?

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Re: NetUSBee USB drivers package v5

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czietz wrote:What does the tablet driver output when you load it (on the computer with the Lightning VME/ST, obviously)?
On my TT with graphics card and Lightning VME, I unfortunately see, with a Monitor on the TT-VGA port, no displays from the boot process.

But on the ST with a Lightning ST comes the message "API Mismatch"
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Re: NetUSBee USB drivers package v5

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Ah, I see. Blame it on recent FreeMiNT development, who (rather needlessly, imho) changed their USB API to be incompatible with what was before. The latest released Lightning ST/VME drivers (r226) still use the old API. It's easily fixable; it's just a matter of compiling the tablet driver against the old API. (This is just a temporary issue, anyway, because the Lightning VME/ST drivers will have to make the switch to the new API with the next release, too.)

EDIT: PM me (either here or via Atari-home.de) for more details. I don't want to clutter this thread with Lightning ST/VME related support stuff.
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Re: NetUSBee USB drivers package v5

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Bikerbob wrote: So once booted I manually ran USB then Storage then netusb - usually I get on any 1.04 tos machine a failed to set cookie error. This time it went through.. a few times in and out with the usb the tool saw it. Loaded HDDriver Utility I have 10.17
If you have again the cookie error, this is from the README.TXT:
"The driver installs a cookie, so if it fails to load with an error related to a cookie, you may need a (larger) cookie jar such as JARnnn.PRG."
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czietz wrote:Ah, I see. Blame it on recent FreeMiNT development, who (rather needlessly, imho) changed their USB API to be incompatible with what was before.
You're right, when I commited the change I thought that the usb_device struct will change its size, now looking at it thoroughly I see it doesn't, sorry for that. In any case I always have thought that it was an unfortunate decision not to add the Lightning drivers into FreeMiNT's repository, we could have avoid this kind of problems, and everybody would have also benefited of bugs fixing or new added features to the drivers, we're a small community and it would have been nice to centralize efforts.
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Re: NetUSBee USB drivers package v5

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Bikerbob wrote:Sorry if I am bothersome, I seem to be getting ignored here, but I have an update and I will post it anyway. Maybe someone will contribute.

I have not been able to get any usb stick to read using an STF STFM MEGAST or STE until last night. Last night on a STE I was able to get a Sandisk CRUISER 1gb usb seen.
I have UltraSatan. Boots nothing in AUTO - USBTOOL.acc in root. Driver is PP hdriver. 13u. It seems that his driver does not support this buss correct?

So once booted I manually ran USB then Storage then netusb - usually I get on any 1.04 tos machine a failed to set cookie error. This time it went through.. a few times in and out with the usb the tool saw it. Loaded HDDriver Utility I have 10.17

It sees the USB on buss3. Did not like my partitions that I made on the PC. they were Fat16.. but whatever. I have gotten this far before on the STE.. but now I was able to right click on the device. partition it again.. 3 x 334 meg. Reboot.. all was seen install devices and bang for first time it was able to access the new 3 drives.

I have several nice little 128mb thumb drives I cant use for anything else.. but it seems to have a hard time with these.

I wanted this because I thought it was usable on all machines. Am I wrong?

James
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Re: NetUSBee USB drivers package v5

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Galvez wrote:
Bikerbob wrote: So once booted I manually ran USB then Storage then netusb - usually I get on any 1.04 tos machine a failed to set cookie error. This time it went through.. a few times in and out with the usb the tool saw it. Loaded HDDriver Utility I have 10.17
If you have again the cookie error, this is from the README.TXT:
"The driver installs a cookie, so if it fails to load with an error related to a cookie, you may need a (larger) cookie jar such as JARnnn.PRG."
But Galvez, as far as I am aware, and please correct me.. I would love to be wrong on this.. 1.04 does not use the cookie jar at all does it?

When I go into system info etc.. in a 1.2 or 1.04 machine.. it says no cookie jar present.

IF thats the case - how do you load the drivers period?

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Found this here.. SO.. if this is the case.. why are people saying that they got this running on a Mega? or an ST? max is 1.04????

https://freemint.github.io/tos.hyp/en/b ... iejar.html

3.7 Cookie jar
The cookie jar was introduced with TOS 1.06 and represents a generalisation of the system variables. One is dealing here with a table of individual cookies that are defined as follows:
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Re: NetUSBee USB drivers package v5

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Bikerbob wrote:
Galvez wrote:
Bikerbob wrote: So once booted I manually ran USB then Storage then netusb - usually I get on any 1.04 tos machine a failed to set cookie error. This time it went through.. a few times in and out with the usb the tool saw it. Loaded HDDriver Utility I have 10.17
If you have again the cookie error, this is from the README.TXT:
"The driver installs a cookie, so if it fails to load with an error related to a cookie, you may need a (larger) cookie jar such as JARnnn.PRG."
But Galvez, as far as I am aware, and please correct me.. I would love to be wrong on this.. 1.04 does not use the cookie jar at all does it?

When I go into system info etc.. in a 1.2 or 1.04 machine.. it says no cookie jar present.

IF thats the case - how do you load the drivers period?
I guess that application (JARnnn.PRG) creates the cookie jar if not present, but I don't have a ST and I haven't tested the NetUSBee in one, only with a Falcon. Other ST users should give an answer to your question.
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So I found the Github https://github.com/anodynesoftware/netusbee

Found Roger Burrows. I dont find him on the forums etc. I have sent email? Fingers crossed.

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Bikerbob wrote:So I found the Github https://github.com/anodynesoftware/netusbee

Found Roger Burrows. I dont find him on the forums etc. I have sent email? Fingers crossed.
The sources from where the drivers in the package v5 are built are hosted in FreeMiNT's repository [1]. Roger's driver was merged into FreeMiNT's sources.

[1] https://github.com/freemint/freemint/tr ... er/sys/usb
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Re: NetUSBee USB drivers package v5

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Reading the Compendium, it seems that the cookie jar was always present, in all TOS versions. I run currently a 520STFM with TOS 1.04 and no JARnnn.PRG. I do need POOLFIX4.PRG before USB.PRG, or the latter crash (2 bombs).

On my MegaST I used to run JARnnn.PRG, but that was to increase the jar size, since I loaded many programs that installed cookies and ran out.

Four out of four USB keys I tried work. I have an old 64MB, a Lexar 8GB and a recent Kingston 16GB, and another 8GB key, all work.
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Perdrix24 wrote: Four out of four USB keys I tried work. I have an old 64MB, a Lexar 8GB and a recent Kingston 16GB, and another 8GB key, all work.
For me too, I haven't found yet one that didn't work. I've tested 5 different USB sticks and 3 different card readers.
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I will try with the poolfix4.prg and see if that fixes the 1.04 .. Might be something to put in a readme. jarxxx.prg in its readme states that the cookie jar was only introduced in 1.06. System variables existed but the jar as a central "location" to store was in 1.6

But this seems to be all he said she said.. nothing in any of this stuff seems to be definitive fact.. especially if I can get it to work with poolfix.prg

OH.. and I have tried 9 different USB keys on 6 different machines. I can get 1 to work everytime.. sandisk microcruiser.. THATS IT.

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Re: NetUSBee USB drivers package v5

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I have a TT with 3.06 and the NetUSBee won't detect any USB devices with the driver installed. I've tried a couple different storage devices (flash cards, SD card reader, even a Vita) and can't get even a grayed-out USB device to appear. I get the root hub in the device list. It redraws the list when I plug something in (I can see it clear and draw again) but no devices appear and the physical USB device only lights up for a couple seconds.

Sometimes NETUSBEE.PRG will lock up when loaded in AUTO as well. It'll hang on "detecting USB devices..." but I haven't been able to consistently reproduce it.

My AUTO folder contains just the USB driver package, Super Boot, and STING.

Is there a way to retrieve debug info from the USB driver that would be helpful? I'm a 68K and TOS programmer but I don't know anything about USB.
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LuigiThirty wrote:I have a TT with 3.06 and the NetUSBee won't detect any USB devices with the driver installed. I've tried a couple different storage devices (flash cards, SD card reader, even a Vita) and can't get even a grayed-out USB device to appear. I get the root hub in the device list. It redraws the list when I plug something in (I can see it clear and draw again) but no devices appear and the physical USB device only lights up for a couple seconds.

Sometimes NETUSBEE.PRG will lock up when loaded in AUTO as well. It'll hang on "detecting USB devices..." but I haven't been able to consistently reproduce it.

My AUTO folder contains just the USB driver package, Super Boot, and STING.

Is there a way to retrieve debug info from the USB driver that would be helpful? I'm a 68K and TOS programmer but I don't know anything about USB.
Does the network function of the card work? This will discard that the fuse of the cartridge port isn't blown.
It doesn't look that is the problem you're having but STING drivers and USB drivers unfortunately doesn't work well together, mass storage transfers become unreliable.
There are some TT owners reporting here in the forum issues with the NetUSBee, someone mentioned that some TT motherboard revision has a faulty cartridge port.
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Re: NetUSBee USB drivers package v5

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With my Atari TT (SMD CPU) a NetusBee do not work at all. Emagic and Cubase Dongles work fine, so I think the Romport is ok. The NetusBee works also not with a PAK68/3-030 Speeder in a Mega ST. The NetusBee is ok and work fine with a Falcon or a normal Atari ST/STE or MegaSTE.

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Re: NetUSBee USB drivers package v5

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The NE2000 has a MAC address but I haven’t tried using it to connect to my network in a while. I redid my home network and never got around to updating the STING config. I didn’t have any problem connecting to my network before.

I’ve also heard that USB doesn’t work on a TT without a powered hub plugged in? I might try that tomorrow too.

I have a bunch of blank ST prototyping cartridges that I can build some circuits on to check the voltages, I suppose.
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Re: NetUSBee USB drivers package v5

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Is it possible for the keyboard / mouse set to work on a single USB receiver?
The device whose driver will be the first to load is currently working. I only checked two sets (Lightning ST), so maybe someone has one that works.
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