Menu's by "The Source"

kalamazoo · Post by **kalamazoo** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:51 pm

Hello!!

Does anyone know if these disks still exist? Are they downloadable?

TIA!

MiggyMog · Post by **MiggyMog** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:54 pm

I believe Rich has just acquired some of them, see the 3500 disks thread.

Also there is another guy on this forum who had a bit to do with there creation....

kalamazoo · Post by **kalamazoo** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 2:24 pm

MiggyMog wrote:I believe Rich has just acquired some of them, see the 3500 disks thread.

Also there is another guy on this forum who had a bit to do with there creation....

Thanks for the prompt reply.

I actually started the group back in the 80's when I was at school. There was me and my best mate - Egon (now living with his Canadian wife in Torronto)

I think that we were the only two members of the group that knew each other. Everyone else was scattered all over the country and we never met each other.

There was a guy from Berkshire who went under the name of Jumping Jack Flash. It was mainly between him and me that most of the disks were produced. Egon did a lot of the artwork.

We had other members come and go. A guy I knew desperately wanted to join the group, he produced a few disks under the name of Captain Wibble, but, to be honest, they were poo, so he didn't do anymore.

There was another guy called Frosty. mmm. I think he was in from the start, but, TBH, I don't remember too much about him.

Mug UK joined fairly late in the life of the group. He was already well known on the ST scene as he produced one of the better pieces of anti virus software. I see he has a lot to do with this site (hello!!)

I started getting bored (so reasons that I don't remember) produced a few disks under other pseudo names. 'Speed' was one name - that came about because JJF commented on how many disks I was producing. I was just a kid, sat in his bedroom, not too interested in watching TV.

But, for a school kid I'd built up contacts all over the world. Sewer Software in Australia sent us code that we coud use to produce menu's. POV also provided some code. I got sent menu code that Automation and the Pompey Pirates used. So we recycled their code and threw out a few menu.

I think that because we were producing legal disks, with public domain software on, lots of the 'not so legal' groups didn't mind us using their code - as it was going out to a wider audience.

When I hit 16 I was doing my A levels, I had a part time job, and I discovered nightclubbing and girls. IIRC, we carried one for another year or so, but The Source didn't last much longer.

My Atari ST and all my disks were sold off to help pay for my mis-spent youth and I've never really thought about those days since.

I later went off to Uni and as coincidence happens, I ran into a guy from another group - The Quartet. The Editor, Nik and Pursey were all part of that group. I think Nik and Pursey also did some artwork for Automation.

Anyway, if anyone has any of our disks, I'd really like to see them

TIA! Kalamazoo.

keili · Post by **keili** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 3:02 pm

Hi kalamazoo.
You can find some of your menus at planetemu:
http://www.planetemu.net/index.php?sect ... 372&page=s
and
http://www.planetemu.net/index.php?sect ... 363&page=s
Or try my just started ftp-server ftp://keilis-atari.dyndns.org
You'll find them there under 'TOSEC\Atari ST - Compilations - Demos' and 'TOSEC\Atari ST - Demos'.
Too bad, that you don't have your old disks any more. Many of your menus are missing.

kalamazoo · Post by **kalamazoo** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:33 pm

keili wrote:Hi kalamazoo.
You can find some of your menus at planetemu:
http://www.planetemu.net/index.php?sect ... 372&page=s
and
http://www.planetemu.net/index.php?sect ... 363&page=s
Or try my just started ftp-server ftp://keilis-atari.dyndns.org
You'll find them there under 'TOSEC\Atari ST - Compilations - Demos' and 'TOSEC\Atari ST - Demos'.
Too bad, that you don't have your old disks any more. Many of your menus are missing.

Thats brilliant. Thank you very much!

bodkinz · Post by **bodkinz** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:15 pm

Here is what i have if it helps...

1,2,3,8,10,28v2,41,46,49,63,69,70,80v2,84,89,96,99a,99b,103,105,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,119,121,125

And.. Peeks & Pokes MOD disks 1 & 2

aktiv8 · Post by **aktiv8** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:26 pm

firstly welcome aboard Kalamazoo - its great to see another scener come out of the woodwork

@Keili - great FTP site, simple and effective, hope to check out any new TOSEC stuff on there soon matey

keili · Post by **keili** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:00 am

Thanks aktiv8

. Good to hear, that it works from 'outside'. It may take some time, until all the other images appear in the TOSEC-database. In the meantime, you can find them in the 'unrenamed'-folder. I've dreamed about this server for 2 years now.
kalamazoo, there are also 4 more Source-menues in 'unrenamed images\st'.

WillieSea · Post by **WillieSea** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 3:52 pm

Hey keili,
I checked out your FTP as well, and was able to get to it from my location. Unfortunately, it was very slow at 11KB/Sec, it took about a minute to download a 700KB file.
Planet emulation gives me 254KB/Sec. About 3-4 seconds to download a 700KB file.

keili · Post by **keili** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:08 pm

That's the difference between running a server at home or rent space on a real webserver. Webspace it expensive and the traffic is mostly limited. Planetemu gets the money from advertising.
I wanted a cheap and easy to manage solution. Until i can get a faster broadband it is slow. But you can use a downloadmanager and let it run. That's not possible at Planetemu.

WillieSea · Post by **WillieSea** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 7:33 pm

I wasn't complaining, just letting you know. I opened the compiliation-games directory and it took 3-4 minutes to show. I think because every compilation is in the one directory, it took a while get all the text filenames and links.
I think it is cool that you have an FTP server. I am not knowlegeable in that area to do it myself.

aktiv8 · Post by **aktiv8** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:07 pm

WillieSea wrote:I wasn't complaining, just letting you know. I opened the compiliation-games directory and it took 3-4 minutes to show. I think because every compilation is in the one directory, it took a while get all the text filenames and links.
I think it is cool that you have an FTP server. I am not knowlegeable in that area to do it myself.

Yep that will be the reason why the listing took a while to show - because everything is lumped in to one directory.

This is (as far as Im concerned) not a failing so to speak of Keili but of the way TOSEC operates - and that in turn in not a criticisim of TOSEC.

I have a fast enough conenction that the listing is there within 60 seconds or so, therefore I'm happy, what may be an idea if Keili doesn't mind for people on slower connections is a .txt file with a directory listing or similar so people can just FTP the filenames they want?

Whatever happens I just want to thank Keili for a great FTP server and easy supply to TOSEC images

Post by **Mug UK** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 2:08 pm

Welcome aboard Kalamazoo

I only kept the menus which I did or had work by me on them

as disks were expensive in those days

I took them all to the Outline 2006 event and Grazey imaged them all up and handed them to Lotek so the menus (as image files) are in Lotek's hands as far as I know.

Once I finally get my TT up and running, I'll have another go at doing the same disks and release them here as there's a few of the missing ones in the list.

keili · Post by **keili** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 3:21 pm

I will split the Compilations-Games after i've finished the CD-section.

-Mr X- · Post by **-Mr X-** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:48 pm

Hey chaps

-Mr X- ex of Propechy PD and member of The Source just checking in. Was just thinking about the old Atari ST days the other day. It was brilliant to see the odd few bits and pieces still around. Made me feel quite nostalgic.......

Anyone up for a game of Speedball 2 or the original Populous

Take it easy

-Mr X-

Post by **Mug UK** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:53 pm

And another one pops up

Welcome aboard fellow ex-Source member

I tried using PPera's tool last night on the few menus I still have but every one came up with "cannot read boot-sector". Will try on the other PC tonight.

-Mr X- · Post by **-Mr X-** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:38 pm

So whats been happening the last 15 years or so? Any news?

-X-

Post by **Mug UK** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:09 pm

Lots of life changes but still into my Atari's

kalamazoo · Post by **kalamazoo** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:43 am

I must be losing it. I vaguely remember a Mr.X but not as a member of The Source.

Sorry mate, I probably knew you quite well, but it was a long time ago and lots of things have happened since then.

After The Source, i went off to Uni. Remember an ST group called The Quartet? Well, it just so happened that one of their guys was on my course. I met him on my first day and we stayed mates for years.

After Uni, I went down south. I worked in an around London for 6 or 7 years - as a developer. I was part of the team that set up BBC Online.

I got bored with London, so got a job as a consultant with an American content management company. So, after a month in Texas, I then spent three years working all over Europe. I was averaging 4 flights a week. Madrid, Paris, Dusseldorf, Stockholm and Copenhagen are all places I spent a lot of time in.

For the past 6 years I've been back up my native North East. Shortly after moving back, I met my wife, and we've been married (almost) a year now.

Post by **Mug UK** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 4:46 pm

I completely forgot to take my Source disks with me to the Atari Preservation Party. D'oh and Mega-D'oh!

Post by **lotek_style** » Tue May 01, 2007 12:16 pm

Post by **Mug UK** » Tue May 01, 2007 12:26 pm

Does the list above include the ones that Grazey did off my ones from last year's Outline?

If not will get them done again.

Post by **lotek_style** » Tue May 01, 2007 12:28 pm

MugUK: NO, I NEVER RECEIVED ANYTHING FROM GRAZEY!!!

Post by **Mug UK** » Tue May 01, 2007 2:41 pm

I took all the ones that were missing, that I'd kept, all the way to Zevenar, Grazey imaged them up and I'm sure he passed them onto you. Ah well .. give me chance to unpack the ST's and I'll try and get them done before the next Outline.

Oh crap .. that's 10 days time. Panic!

Grazey / PHF · Post by **Grazey / PHF** » Tue May 01, 2007 2:42 pm

I did... I gave all the MSA's to Lotek on a CD.

Grz