Midi and Milan

[patjomki]

Hi,

is there anyone using Midi on the Milan?

I just recently got a Midiman MM-401 isa card for my Milan with Cubase MROS drivers but I cannot produce any output on my Yamaha Keyboard (with an ST everything works as expected so keyboard and cables are fine).

I tried Sweet Sixteen 2.73 but it crashes, Cubase lite 1.0 gives an Illegal Instruction. So as I don't own a ROM-port-card yet I also tried it with different Cubase cracks. Cubase 2 (MCA crack) gives a Message box (MROS not found !) then hangs. Cubase 3.01 works and I can play a midisong but I do not hear any music.

Any ideas what to do?

Is there some kind of midi test program for the Milan?

[PeterS]

I have not heard of anyone using midi.

Are there drivers for that card ?

[patjomki]

Yes, see above.

The card came with MROS driver (midiman1.drv) and with that and the latest MROS 3.45 the card is selectable in Cubase 3.01. As the card is an isa card it is set to irq address330H (default) and IRQ2 (default too). I have two other (pci)cards in my milan that use IRQ 9 and 11.

[patjomki]

I now have a Midiman Winman 1x1 in my Milan and with that card and the above mentioned driver midi works (both Cubase and MusicEdit).

Seems that the Midiman MM-401 doesn't work with that driver.

[PeterS]

I remember researching a daughter card for the soundblaster. I can't recall if it had midi or if there were drivers.

[PeterS]

It was the Waveblaster cards I was thinking of (DB50XG) that provide onboard midi instruments and not offboard midi.

[PeterS]

I just found some waveblaster clones

https://www.serdashop.com/X2-SE

[PeterS]

After a bit of websearch I think the minimum needed is:

1. Cubase (and mros) or similar midi app
2. waveblaster card

If that works then a midi db15 breakout cable and a midi keyboard. Some keyboards are wired with db15.

[shoggoth]

If there’s real interest in running Cubase on the Milan, I could perhaps do some tests with my custom/patched MROS. It removes all ACIA dependencies.

[PeterS]

I can't play music so it's a bit of fun to see what works, although an Atari without midi is missing something.

[PeterS]

I found a version of Cubase 3.10 and acrack that replaces the dongle but it doesn't run (no dongle, bye).

https://archive.org/details/steinberg-c ... 2122-z-001

[PeterS]

I tried SMF player.

It opens and I can choose a .smf

Hit play and the busybee appears for 3 mins before it goes back to the pointer.

I don't have any midi hardware so it might be working.

[PeterS]

The Soundblaster I have is a CT2960 which "...does have the hanging note bug".
https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t=31170

[Zippy]

I found a version of Cubase 3.10 and acrack that replaces the dongle but it doesn't run (no dongle, bye).

https://archive.org/details/steinberg-c ... 2122-z-001

Are you running the CUB31CRK.PRG file that you've copied into the Cubase directory?

[PeterS]

I tried running Cubase before and after running the CRK prg.

[Zippy]

I tried running Cubase before and after running the CRK prg.

You don't run Cubase separately at all, just copy the CUB31CRK.PRG crack file to the Cubase 3.10 directory and run the CUB31CRK.PRG file. The crack will start and then run Cubase itself, with the dongle emulated.

If you're getting "No key" you're doing something wrong, either the crack file is in the wrong place or you have the wrong version of Cubase or something.

Unpack the CUB31CRK.PRG crack file to the same directory where you unpacked Cubase 3.10, so that it's in same directory as the CUBASE.PRG file.

[PeterS]

I tried again.

The CRK throws an illegal exception but the console shows output from it running.

I ran cubase which also throws an error.

I ran the CRK again and at that point Cubase started.

Trying to load a song caused several errors and then the Milan locked up completely.

[Zippy]

I don't even know what a Milan is but I guess it's not emulating something correctly then. If it can't even run the simple crack file without hitting an illegal instruction then I doubt there's much chance of getting Cubase itself to run on it.

[PeterS]

Milan is an 060 clone.

Maybe Cubase doesn't like mint either.

[Zippy]

Maybe Cubase doesn't like mint either.

It doesn't, but I think Shoggoth is working on that.

[PeterS]

After a few more failed runs it started and I loaded the .MID file from SMF Play.

[PeterS]

On the strength of that, I've order an X2se dreamblaster from Serda.

[PeterS]

Sweet Sixteen runs but the buttons on the window are a bit messed up.

[PeterS]

I tried to open the rsc in Orcs but it throws lots of errors.

Could someone try Sweet16 to see if it's a XAaes issue or Milan issue ?

https://www.ronimusic.com/s16_ata.htm

[PeterS]

I managed to fix the Sweet16 rsc using Interface. I just opened it and saved it again.

My Dreamblaster arrived today and was plugged in. Everything boots up and I tried to play a midi file in Sweet16 and Cubase but there is no sound output.

I read somewhere that the output can be muted but I don't know how to unmute it on the Atari.

It could be that the soundblaster driver isn't working with midi. I don't know how this works internally. How do apps normally communicate with midi, is it a VDI device ?