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Orion_ wrote:This is what I get on my Firebee (FireTos or mint) running the program from A: (sdcard)
it starts with a little black screen in the upper left corner (during "chargement image...")
same result in both 16bits or 32bits
The problem may have been found. I have used the debug version of Offscreen Test on my FireBee and sent the logs to Daroou. His analysis is:
- EdDI cookie is not involved in the issue
- the bad behavior still is located in the Offscreen VDI.

See the v_opnbm() documentation : "If bitmap->fd_addr is zero, the VDI will allocate memory for the bitmap and will clear it [...] To open a bitmap in device-specific format, bitmap->fd_nplanes should be zero, or the number of planes of the screen (work_out[4] from vq_extnd). [...] If bitmap->fd_addr is not zero, it will be used as pointer to a bitmap. "
Choice is proposed to use a coder's filled MFDB or a zero-filled MFDB that the VDI is supposed to modify.

Daroou's prefered to use a zero-filled MFBD, for the VDI to fill it. NVDI is doing its job, but the internal FireTOS VDI (fVDI) does not. Thus explaining the writings on the screen. Seems wiser to fill oneself the MFDB.
He's working on this fix, among other things, for the next release.
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Rajah Lone wrote:Daroou's prefered to use a zero-filled MFBD, for the VDI to fill it. NVDI is doing its job, but the internal FireTOS VDI (fVDI) does not. Thus explaining the writings on the screen. Seems wiser to fill oneself the MFDB.
He's working on this fix, among other things, for the next release.
IIRC fVDI doesn't implement offscreen bitmaps, but it does implement vq_scrninfo() and the EdDI cookie. Didier could have cured this, however.
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Daroou has released a new version for Offscreen Test:

Changes in v0.36:
- add: CT060 VRAM mode.
- add: information window.
- fix: mouse click problem under monoTOS environment.
- fix: display problem on FireBee without NVDI.
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Did someone download all of his stuff before atari.daroou.fr went offline? :-/
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mikro wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 11:03 pm Did someone download all of his stuff before atari.daroou.fr went offline? :-/
I wonder if it's all here, Badgers is:

https://web.archive.org/web/20190216080 ... daroou.fr/
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Yeah, I have seen the web archive. Some links work, some don't. It would be shame to lost them.
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mikro wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:08 am Yeah, I have seen the web archive. Some links work, some don't. It would be shame to lost them.
I have added an incomplete backup of Daroou's files on my website: https://sites.google.com/view/frenchgemdoscrew/apps
There are at the bottom of the page.
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btw. latest fVDI does indeed support offscreen bitmaps - also on the FireBee (this little demo - click it for the video - is entirely done using VDI raster copies and should run on everything that has v_opnbm()):
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mfro wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:26 am btw. latest fVDI does indeed support offscreen bitmaps - also on the FireBee (this little demo - click it for the video - is entirely done using VDI raster copies and should run on everything that has v_opnbm()):
This is the first time I hear about this. This is great news. When was that fVDI released and where can we find it?
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If that's really the case, it's great news. I was pretty annoyed when fVDI reported the availability of this feature but didn't implement it in practice, or at least not in a way that was compatible with NVDI/Enhancer.

Offscreen VDI raster copies doesn't require offscreen bitmap support though.
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Yeah, after reading shoggoth's comment above I wonder if there isn't some confusion here. mfro, are you sure that demo uses v_opnbm()? Last time I checked fVDI only had a skeleton of that function that didn't do anything.
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See https://github.com/freemint/fvdi/blob/c ... stn.c#L194. The v_opnbm case is handled in the else.
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Yes, there’s some code for it, but does it work as advertised?
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jfl wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 7:00 pm
mfro wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:26 am btw. latest fVDI does indeed support offscreen bitmaps - also on the FireBee (this little demo - click it for the video - is entirely done using VDI raster copies and should run on everything that has v_opnbm()):
This is the first time I hear about this. This is great news. When was that fVDI released and where can we find it?
https://github.com/mfro0/libcmini-examp ... ffscreen.c (it's not exactly the rotation demo above - messed that up) but this is using v_opnbm() ).

This works for the current fVDI driver for the FireBee as well as (using the Atari bitplane drivers) on Hatari. With the Aranym driver, it crashes Aranym (!) for me (no idea why that is the case). I don't know if it works together with NVDI, however - never tested.

fVDI is on github: https://github.com/freemint/fvdi

[edit: just tested with NVDI5 - works the exact same way]
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mfro wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:33 pm With the Aranym driver, it crashes Aranym (!) for me (no idea why that is the case)..
Yes, with aranym, there is still a problem. This is because of the way fVDI communicates with aranym. Aranym does not know that a offscreen bitmap was used, and assumes screen format, and also writes to the display instead of memory. Have to find a way to fix that :(
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ThorstenOtto wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 2:14 pm Yes, with aranym, there is still a problem. This is because of the way fVDI communicates with aranym. Aranym does not know that a offscreen bitmap was used, and assumes screen format, and also writes to the display instead of memory. Have to find a way to fix that :(
That explains why I could never get it to work. It would be nice if that was mentioned in the fvdi section of the aranym docs.
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mikro wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:31 pmBtw Rajah, you wouldn't happen to have all Daroou's productions stored somewhere: https://www.atari-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 07#p454807 ?
Sorry. I don't have them. Had to have some, but prg compiled for ColdFire. Tried to get them via webarchive, but most of it was missing.
I just sent an email to him with lastest known address (01-2017), hoping it would work and reach him.
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Some archives I have :


SPRITEGM_016_030.zip
OFFSCREEN_036_030.ZIP
PUPUL_097_68K.ZIP
NYANCAT_098_020_60.ZIP
BOING_097_030.zip
BADGERS_099_030.ZIP
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Hi,

I've noticed that the archive offscreen has no source.
I like to know how he allocated video ram.
May some guy downloaded it :) ?

EDIT

Again thanks to Lonny - He found the source file I wanted.
Find it attached below.
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