Robocop3, Greaseweazle settings

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Robocop3, Greaseweazle settings

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Hi everyone,

I recently picked up an STE which I've cleaned up and got working tonight. It came with a large number of original disks and manuals as there's some unusual stuff in there I figure I'll probably archive everything.

I'm used to having used the Greaseweazle to backup copy protected disks on other platforms which usually relied on those tricky "extra" sectors on the disk and converting them to HFE for use in a Gotek.

I've been using the same approach with the first disk I wanted to convert; Robocop 3. I'm just using the default command

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gw.exe read --drive 0 robocop3_1.scp
and then converting with HxC to an STX file for testing in Steem and Hatari. By default it reads 82 tracks, I think?

To be clear, the disk runs fine on the Atari STE itself, and I get the manual protection check and then the game loads fine. However, the STX version results in an "ACCESS DENIED" page, which clearly means I've screwed up the archiving.

Is there recommended GW read settings for protected ST disks that I should be using? I'm not sure quite what Ocean implemented here (the ST wasn't dongled).
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- Aufit usually performs a better conversion to STX: https://info-coach.fr/atari/software/pc ... /Aufit.php
- Latest Steem SSE versions can run SCP images directly.
- It is possible that the disk is damaged, or dirty.
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Ah! The SCP version works fine in Steem, you're right about the STX.

The Aufit version also worked fine, thank you! I do love Steem, but I quite like playing through the Retroarch/Hatari interface so having both options is great.
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I met the same problem lately. you need to pick the latest HxC tool. The previous release had something wrong.
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dlfrsilver wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 2:10 pm I met the same problem lately. you need to pick the latest HxC tool. The previous release had something wrong.
Good to know, thank you for the heads up! I was using quite an old version.
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dlfrsilver wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 2:10 pm I met the same problem lately. you need to pick the latest HxC tool. The previous release had something wrong.
I listed a bunch of.scp dumps I uploaded to archive.org, to the HxC author, and said HxC couldn't convert them to .stx.
He did say it was missing a track write (I think) option.
He didn't say he'd look at doing anything with them though.
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NickLuvsRetro wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 8:33 pm Hi everyone,

I recently picked up an STE which I've cleaned up and got working tonight. It came with a large number of original disks and manuals as there's some unusual stuff in there I figure I'll probably archive everything.

I'm used to having used the Greaseweazle to backup copy protected disks on other platforms which usually relied on those tricky "extra" sectors on the disk and converting them to HFE for use in a Gotek.

I've been using the same approach with the first disk I wanted to convert; Robocop 3. I'm just using the default command

Code: Select all

gw.exe read --drive 0 robocop3_1.scp
and then converting with HxC to an STX file for testing in Steem and Hatari. By default it reads 82 tracks, I think?

To be clear, the disk runs fine on the Atari STE itself, and I get the manual protection check and then the game loads fine. However, the STX version results in an "ACCESS DENIED" page, which clearly means I've screwed up the archiving.

Is there recommended GW read settings for protected ST disks that I should be using? I'm not sure quite what Ocean implemented here (the ST wasn't dongled).

Screenshot 2023-11-27 201838.png
By default it reads 80 tracks I think.

For disk preservation, you should really be reading 5x revolutions, and all 84 tracks (assuming your drive can do 84 tracks)
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Mikerochip wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 1:17 am
dlfrsilver wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 2:10 pm I met the same problem lately. you need to pick the latest HxC tool. The previous release had something wrong.
I listed a bunch of.scp dumps I uploaded to archive.org, to the HxC author, and said HxC couldn't convert them to .stx.
He did say it was missing a track write (I think) option.
He didn't say he'd look at doing anything with them though.
I don't remember this. Anyway please open an issue on github, this way this will not be lost ;) :
https://github.com/jfdelnero/HxCFloppyEmulator/issues

btw @ijor where can i find the latest documentation about the stx format ?
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Jeff_HxC2001 wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:43 pm
Mikerochip wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 1:17 am
dlfrsilver wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 2:10 pm I met the same problem lately. you need to pick the latest HxC tool. The previous release had something wrong.
I listed a bunch of.scp dumps I uploaded to archive.org, to the HxC author, and said HxC couldn't convert them to .stx.
He did say it was missing a track write (I think) option.
He didn't say he'd look at doing anything with them though.
I don't remember this. Anyway please open an issue on github, this way this will not be lost ;) :
https://github.com/jfdelnero/HxCFloppyEmulator/issues
It was on the Video Game Preservation discord.
https://discord.com/channels/4100322235 ... 4836483072

I opened an issue too :)
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Mikerochip wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:12 am
It was on the Video Game Preservation discord.
https://discord.com/channels/4100322235 ... 4836483072

I opened an issue too :)
Thanks ! :)
(these discord threads are quite "noisy" , the messages was buried under tons of others messages. )
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