Crown of creation test:

MacFalcon · Post by **MacFalcon** » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:43 pm

I got some Disks that were written with kyroflux. Unfortunately they did not work

They have been made from kyroflux Images. Already during installation it claimed I have to insert original disk.

I think it's disk #3 that causes trouble.

Best regards,

Chris

Marcer · Post by **Marcer** » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:51 pm

i have .SCP images of v1.3b..

not tested... on my ftp..

Estrayk · Post by **Estrayk** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:59 pm

Call me crazy but maybe can be a good idea to contact one of the authors. Maybe they do not have problems in contributing to the community a copy of the game 1.3 without protection.

Does anyone know them?

MacFalcon · Post by **MacFalcon** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:06 pm

The author is still reachable through the Telephone number in the manual. At least I was told so... Maybe it's worth a try...

broadwing · Post by **broadwing** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 2:51 am

did someone try with the supercard pro version i provided in this thread (macfalcon maybe?)? i've been assured it was recognized as original.

Post by **mikro** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 6:24 am

broadwing wrote:did someone try with the supercard pro version i provided in this thread (macfalcon maybe?)? i've been assured it was recognized as original.

Maybe you could post it as attachment here? The link is dead again.

kodak80 · Post by **kodak80** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:06 am

mikro wrote:Maybe you could post it as attachment here? The link is dead again.

DrCoolZic had SCP dumps on his Mega share but not sure if these are the same as previously discussed. Copies of these will be here for a while:
https://mega.nz/#!Q3xRQI7Z!R794mCQrJNjK ... 8FjMMDtoQA

I created STX/ST disk images from these which I believe worked in Hatari:
https://mega.nz/#!cu4TnSZD!iNAcLx0rsSeb ... bD1bGvbFoQ

I am after a copy of the manual if anyone has this available and willing to share?

broadwing · Post by **broadwing** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:29 pm

I'm actually away from my data stash right now but I do have it somewhere, along with scans of the manual. I'll send them as soon as I'm able.

Kodak, did you create kryoflux images out of CoC? if so, Out of curiosity, did you dump the protected tracks in DD mode? I've been told it's necessary so the disk can be recognized as original, but my understanding of this is partial at best.

kodak80 · Post by **kodak80** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:19 pm

broadwing wrote:Kodak, did you create kryoflux images out of CoC? if so, Out of curiosity, did you dump the protected tracks in DD mode? I've been told it's necessary so the disk can be recognized as original, but my understanding of this is partial at best.

These are not my SCP dumps and I do not have the original disks to create a KF dump. I have not tried writing these back to floppy to test them. I will give this a try though to see what happens.

I had fun getting the disks into STX/ST format so that they would install within Hatari so will see if this is the same with real floppies. Haven't managed to test in Hatari past the question for a word from the packaging though. Disk C was extracted onto a .ST format disk which allowed the installation to complete.

broadwing · Post by **broadwing** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:04 pm

OK, so here are download links to the supercard pro image of CoC:

https://www.mediafire.com/file/vyz9zjtm ... d.zip/file

and the manual PDF:

https://www.mediafire.com/file/bg9wt9xk ... d.pdf/file

They'll only be active for the next 14 days though so grab them and spread them while you can. And for those who are able, be sure to give that image a go to see if it registers as original.

Best regards.

Maartau · Post by **Maartau** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:36 pm

Hi

,

I quickly checked the SCP's of Broadwing with "Aufit" & disk 3 have a protection.

My bad I can't have a go in ATM as I'm moving from WIn 8.1 to Win 10 to new laptops & my emuls / configs / tools aren't installed

.

(More free time & free mind in the next days

).

kodak80 · Post by **kodak80** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:45 pm

Disk 3 in the dump does have some sort of protection but when I copied the contents onto a blank .ST disk image, the installation process completed fine with the non-protected disk 3 so the protection is not used to install.

Using the converted STX for disk 1 and 2 and the ST for disk 3, I sucessfully installed onto my Hatari hard disk and the game loads. I haven't tested beyond answering the security question though. Will try and spend time this weekend testing further on my real hardware.

broadwing · Post by **broadwing** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:53 pm

If anyone can do so, please test it extensively as i’m Given to understand that the protection kicks in later in the game.

Something about inserting an « original disk » which is required later.

Can anyone who tried before specify when this occurs in game?

MacFalcon · Post by **MacFalcon** » Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:11 am

It is after Level 7 as far as I remember. Can check this next Weekend at Atariada... But if you really can install the game with your disks it may be fine. With the disks I tried (kyroflux Images written to disk) it already gave error during Installation.

broadwing · Post by **broadwing** » Fri Apr 05, 2019 10:24 am

Thanks Mac falcon. By the way, I believe credit goes to you for the manual pdf, correct?

kodak80 · Post by **kodak80** » Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:13 am

I have written the SCP dumps I provided a link to (http://atari-forum.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... 66#p371449) back to floppy disks and have successfully installed the 3 install disks to my Falcon hard disk and the game loads fine. Not having played the game before I now need to read the manual to figure out how to get to level 7.

broadwing · Post by **broadwing** » Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:08 am

thank you kodak, out of curiosity, do you also have the possibility to test those builds on recent hatari versions?

kodak80 · Post by **kodak80** » Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:29 pm

broadwing wrote:thank you kodak, out of curiosity, do you also have the possibility to test those builds on recent hatari versions?

As mentioned above, I did create STX/ST files which work in Hatari. I am using version 2.2.1. I had to enable in the System settings the Falcon DSP to get the game to run from hard disk. The game just crashed without the DSP being enabled. DSP set to Full seem to allow CoC 3D to load and run.

I also had my Cubase Audio Clock (CAC) plugged into my Falcon when testing the game on real hardware. I did not try on my Falcon without the CAC.

EDIT: I have tested it again on my Falcon and it does not need the CAC to run.

broadwing · Post by **broadwing** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:08 pm

I see. Sorry, forgot about that.

Good to know that hatari seems to handle the game.

Estrayk · Post by **Estrayk** » Thu Sep 19, 2019 1:58 pm

I know it's not a very ethical request, but I think many of us would love to see a v1.3 of this game cracked.

leech · Post by **leech** » Thu Sep 19, 2019 4:25 pm

Estrayk wrote:I know it's not a very ethical request, but I think many of us would love to see a v1.3 of this game cracked.

Ethics for software that is more than 20 years old is more like 'we should preserve it for future generations and get the source code'

Estrayk · Post by **Estrayk** » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:25 pm

The problem is that I don't think there are many Falcon crackers left with the knowledge to make a 100% crack. "disk protec. and manual check"
support for ct60 and a cool intro.

Post by **lotek_style** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:56 pm

Imho... there is -nobody- around these days with DSP knowledge to make a proper crack.

Estrayk · Post by **Estrayk** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:00 pm

lotek_style wrote:Imho... there is -nobody- around these days with DSP knowledge to make a proper crack.

nobody alive from vectronix, elite, supremacy....??

who was the best falcon cracker? Orby?

leech · Post by **leech** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:29 pm

Should we start a crack bounty?

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