Apollo Team announces developing of Vampire standalone version to run as AMIGA and ATARI ST

[Anima]

This is an Amiga 500.

...and was degraded to a keyboard/mouse adapter.

Same as Falcon +CT60+SuperVidel?

No. All older accelerators like the CT60 are kind of an investment insurance so that you still have a "modern" machine while keeping all your important programs. Today this has changed because you should have moved on to a different architecture with your specific needs.

If you have fun with the Apollo accelerator just buy it but it's not an Amiga or Atari anymore.

[1st1]

If you have fun with the Apollo accelerator just buy it but it's not an Amiga or Atari anymore.

Anima, so on an Vampirized Amiga no Amiga applications run anymore...? (On an Vampirized Amiga with EmuTOS no clean GEM applications can run?) On Vampirized AMiga totally new developed software and OS has to be used?

[calimero]

...and was degraded to a keyboard/mouse adapter.

Same as Falcon +CT60+SuperVidel?

nope,
due to in opposite to any amiga, Falcon with CT60 is still hardware compatible with stock Falcon

Same as Amiga 500 with Vampire.

[Cyprian]

Same as Falcon +CT60+SuperVidel?

nope,
due to in opposite to any amiga, Falcon with CT60 is still hardware compatible with stock Falcon

Same as Amiga 500 with Vampire.

are you sure that a500 with Vampire will be hardware compatible with Atari?

[Sorgelig]

Or get RPi for only fraction of Vampire price. It provides around the same level of emulation. Some UAE builds show crazy points in Sysinfo as well.

[calimero]

nope,
due to in opposite to any amiga, Falcon with CT60 is still hardware compatible with stock Falcon

Same as Amiga 500 with Vampire.

are you sure that a500 with Vampire will be hardware compatible with Atari?

Why you mention this?

anima wrote: "Amiga 500 with Vampire is degraded to a keyboard/mouse adapter."

and 1st1 conclude: "Same as Falcon +CT60+SuperVidel?"

and I agree with 1st1: if Amiga 500 with Vampire is degraded to a keyboard/mouse adapter than Falcon+CT6x is also degraded to a keyboard/mouse adapter.

[1st1]

are you sure that a500 with Vampire will be hardware compatible with Atari?

Do you know that in the Cyclone FPGA chip on Vampire is still a lot of space left to upload VHDL code for Shifter, Videl, Combel, Yamaha, DSP, ... ?

[vido]

are you sure that a500 with Vampire will be hardware compatible with Atari?

Do you know that in the Cyclone FPGA chip on Vampire is still a lot of space left to upload VHDL code for Shifter, Videl, Combel, Yamaha, DSP, ... ?

Can you answer the question?

[1st1]

That's the answer.

Or, tell me which detail of hardware do you mean?

[1st1]

Vincent has results of Kronos on his AMiga 500 with current EmuTOS and Vampire...


FPU seens to be disabled on current GOLD2 test core?








ST-RAM ist quite slow, maybe it is because it is Amiga 500 chipmem?

[calimero]

What is MHz speed of Vampire CPU?

There is some impressive numbers

and what is "Video" read/write in Memory test?

[Cyprian]

are you sure that a500 with Vampire will be hardware compatible with Atari?

Do you know that in the Cyclone FPGA chip on Vampire is still a lot of space left to upload VHDL code for Shifter, Videl, Combel, Yamaha, DSP, ... ?

do you know someone needs to create VHDL for those chips?

[christos]

are you sure that a500 with Vampire will be hardware compatible with Atari?

Do you know that in the Cyclone FPGA chip on Vampire is still a lot of space left to upload VHDL code for Shifter, Videl, Combel, Yamaha, DSP, ... ?

do you know someone needs to create VHDL for those chips?

And that's the reason why they are not in the firebee yet.

[joska]

Vincent has results of Kronos on his AMiga 500 with current EmuTOS and Vampire...

I must admit that I'm a little bit disappointed by the performance indicated by these tests. It seems to be on par with a CT60. Of course, this is just a benchmark so real life results may be better. Or worse

[BlankVector]

Vincent has results of Kronos on his AMiga 500 with current EmuTOS and Vampire...

I didn't post that stuff myself here, as this runs on Amiga, and it is not (yet) related to Atari hardware.
My original post is on the Apollo Forum.

What is MHz speed of Vampire CPU?

The CPU is Apollo 68080. Implemented inside Altera Cyclone III FPGA.
I'm not sure if we can really speak about MHz speed for FPGA stuff. Apollo / FPGA gurus could say more.

and what is "Video" read/write in Memory test?

That's part of Kronos mysteries, OL should explain.

[calimero]

What is MHz speed of Vampire CPU?

The CPU is Apollo 68080. Implemented inside Altera Cyclone III FPGA.
I'm not sure if we can really speak about MHz speed for FPGA stuff. Apollo / FPGA gurus could say more.[/quote]

but FPGA chips must work at some frequency... right?

and what is "Video" read/write in Memory test?

That's part of Kronos mysteries, OL should explain.

btw
why there is Kronos and zBench?
Kronos is writen by OL (Olivier Landemarre) and zBench by Zorro (http://zorro.arcadia-crew.com) in 2002.?
What is Zorro real name?

[1st1]

Vincent has results of Kronos on his AMiga 500 with current EmuTOS and Vampire...

I must admit that I'm a little bit disappointed by the performance indicated by these tests. It seems to be on par with a CT60. Of course, this is just a benchmark so real life results may be better. Or worse

Currently it works at about 90 Mhz and in this core version FPU is unavailable. Anyhow some results are worse and others are much better than CT60. They still work on better speed.

Now it would be nice if the author of aniplayer could add support for AMMX (like the DSP option)...

[1st1]

are you sure that a500 with Vampire will be hardware compatible with Atari?

Do you know that in the Cyclone FPGA chip on Vampire is still a lot of space left to upload VHDL code for Shifter, Videl, Combel, Yamaha, DSP, ... ?

do you know someone needs to create VHDL for those chips?

All these chips aleady have been syntetisized in VHDL. Look at MiST. Look at Suska. Look at Firebee.

[soviet9922]

The only problem if you need 600 usd to get a vampire on ebay if you are lucky so what.

[1st1]

The only problem if you need 600 usd to get a vampire on ebay if you are lucky so what.

So order it on the official shop for 250 € (V600) and 300 € (V500). ----> http://apollo-accelerators.com/#wheretobuy

Forget these funny ebay auctions.

[Sorgelig]

Apollo didn't publish any SDK for 3rd party cores, so talking about emulation of other systems is nonsense until Apollo turn its face to users and 3rd part developers.

[joska]

Currently it works at about 90 Mhz and in this core version FPU is unavailable. Anyhow some results are worse and others are much better than CT60. They still work on better speed.

Time will show. In the meantime I will buy a CT60e

[Cyprian]

Do you know that in the Cyclone FPGA chip on Vampire is still a lot of space left to upload VHDL code for Shifter, Videl, Combel, Yamaha, DSP, ... ?

do you know someone needs to create VHDL for those chips?

All these chips aleady have been syntetisized in VHDL. Look at MiST. Look at Suska. Look at Firebee.

nope you are wrong.

[1st1]

Apollo didn't publish any SDK for 3rd party cores, so talking about emulation of other systems is nonsense until Apollo turn its face to users and 3rd part developers.

What do you need? Take 68040/60 programmers manual and you have most you need. You also get the details about SAGA, Vincent did, and they also give you instruction for AMMX (it's very similar to MMX on Pentium P55C). If you need this, go to the apollo-core.com website and join the IRC chat and ask Mr. BigGun. He will be happy, I promise you. Documentation on ATARI ST(E)-TT-Falcon and Amiga is also well known, there is a lot. Conclusion: Everything is there.

[1st1]

do you know someone needs to create VHDL for those chips?

All these chips aleady have been syntetisized in VHDL. Look at MiST. Look at Suska. Look at Firebee.

nope you are wrong.

prove it...

MiST ATARI ST core is functioning and quite compatible
SUSKA also is working (never seen one by myself)
Frebee is also there, already seen some

So what is missing?