Which cracking crew was most active?

[Shazz]

Marcer, as you splited V8 and Empire, did you split the Reps between first A-Team, le Groupe Hofa and Shogun as first independent crews ?

And did you include STCS cracks into the bladerunners ?

And I'm sure that Tsunoo and Boss are really missing, between 85 and 88, with 42 Crew, Copy Service Stuttgart and Ford Perfect, they released a lot of cracks (more than 40 each I'm sure...)

[Marcer]

Marcer, as you splited V8 and Empire, did you split the Reps between first A-Team, le Groupe Hofa and Shogun as first independent crews ?

And did you include STCS cracks into the bladerunners ?

And I'm sure that Tsunoo and Boss are really missing, between 85 and 88, with 42 Crew, Copy Service Stuttgart and Ford Perfect, they released a lot of cracks (more than 40 each I'm sure...)

Im happy you replied to this.

I have for sure Splitted up all crews.
But my problem is. I dont have a single hack from A-Team, Hofa or Shogun. so if somebody have many stuff from those guys.. Please let me know!!

I have plenty of hacks from CSS, Ford Perfect and 42 crew.
i'll try to prepear an little update of this list. since i got one guy collection last week. and just sorted it out. so I think there will be some more changes..

but if you have some collection you can share please help me on this project..

I will try to write down a complete list of which stuff i got from all different crews.. but it will be quite hughe list!

dont know if this will be in any intresst for anyone?

// Marcer

[Marcer]

I fastly checked..

these stuff i got from those sub divisions

Crew - Game
--------------------

42 Crew - 10th Frame
42 Crew - 221b Baker ST
42 Crew - Addicta Ball
42 Crew - Airball
42 Crew - Albedo
42 Crew - Altair
42 Crew - Arcticfox
42 Crew - Bivouac
42 Crew - Boulder Dash
42 Crew - Captain Blood
42 Crew - Chessmaster 2000
42 Crew - Donald Duck
42 Crew - Eden Blues
42 Crew - Flight simulator 2
42 Crew - Goldrunner
42 Crew - Guild of Thieves
42 Crew - Hades Nebula
42 Crew - Ikari Warriors
42 Crew - Jinxter
42 Crew - Jupiter Prob
42 Crew - Karate Kid 2
42 Crew - Leatherneck
42 Crew - Leisure Suit Larry
42 Crew - Manhattan Dealers
42 Crew - Marche A L'ombre
42 Crew - Mercenary
42 Crew - Metropolis
42 Crew - Mission Elevator
42 Crew - Pool
42 Crew - Screaming Wings
42 Crew - Space Pilot
42 Crew - Space Racer
42 Crew - Super Sprint
42 Crew - Superbike Challenge
42 Crew - Terrorpods
42 Crew - TNT
42 Crew - Tonic Tiles
42 Crew - Vermeer

A-Team - NONE!!

Boss - Arena
Boss - Bad Cat
Boss - Bards Tale
Boss - Black Lamp
Boss - Bob Morane Chevalerie 1
Boss - Bob Winner
Boss - Bouble Ghost
Boss - Catch 23
Boss - Certifcate Maker
Boss - Championship Wrestling
Boss - Deep Space
Boss - Defender of the crown
Boss - F15 Strike Eagle
Boss - Fireblaster
Boss - Flight Simulator 2
Boss - Giana Sisters
Boss - Hollywood Poker
Boss - Into The eagles nest
Boss - Jump Jet
Boss - L'affaire
Boss - Leader Board
Boss - Leader Board Golf
Boss - Leader Board Tournament Disk 1
Boss - Les Ripoux
Boss - Leviathan
Boss - Lt Blue berry (lucky luke 2?)
Boss - Mach 3
Boss - Mercenary
Boss - Microleague Wrestling
Boss - Mission to Rafel
Boss - Mission En Rafale
Boss - Oids
Boss - Pinball Factory
Boss - Psion Chess
Boss - Red Alert
Boss - Road Runner
Boss - Solomons Key
Boss - Starglider
Boss - Strip Poker
Boss - Strip poker Data disk 1
Boss - Time Bandit
Boss - Trauma
Boss - Vampire Empire


CSS - Barbarian Psygnosis
CSS - Dame
CSS - Dizzy Wizard
CSS - Extensor
CSS - Gauntlet
CSS - Hollywood Poker
CSS - International Karate
CSS - Into Eagles Nest
CSS - Shanghai
CSS - Tracker
CSS - Winter Games
CSS - Xevious

Ford Perfect - Airball
Ford Perfect - Alien Syndrome
Ford Perfect - Archipelagos
Ford Perfect - Bards Tale
Ford Perfect - Bombuzal
Ford Perfect - Carrier Command
Ford Perfect - Colossus X Chess
Ford Perfect - Cybernoid
Ford Perfect - Dungeon Master v1.1
Ford Perfect - Elite
Ford Perfect - Empire
Ford Perfect - F16 Falcon
Ford Perfect - Gauntlet
Ford Perfect - Helter Skelter
Ford Perfect - Licence to kill
Ford Perfect - Manace
Ford Perfect - Metro Cross
Ford Perfect - Microprose Soccer
Ford Perfect - Millenium 2.2
Ford Perfect - Oids
Ford Perfect - Powerplay
Ford Perfect - Questron 2
Ford Perfect - R Type
Ford Perfect - Sentinel
Ford Perfect - Spaceport
Ford Perfect - Speedball
Ford Perfect - Star Glider 2
Ford Perfect - Ultima 4
Ford Perfect - UMS
Ford Perfect - Virus
Ford Perfect - Wizball

Hofa - Qin

Shogun - NONE!!

STCS - Bill Palmer
STCS - Dark Castle
STCS - Deflektor
STCS - Marble Madness
STCS - Powerdrome
STCS - Slap Fight
STCS - Tetris

Tsunoo - 10th Frame
Tsunoo - Airball
Tsunoo - Gauntlet 2
Tsunoo - GFL Championship Football
Tsunoo - Prohibition
Tsunoo - SDI
Tsunoo - Wanderer

this is the report of what i got of those crews/guys

you got anything not listed by those.. please contact me asap!!!

// Marcer

[Shazz]

Eh eh jsut from memory I can add :

Groupe Hofa :
- Roadwars

A-Team :
- Street Fighter

But check cracktros Jace has added, those 3 crews are there...

CSS :
- Mission Elevator with a nice intro (CSS logo with We are the champions sample)

STCS and Tsunoo, that's not that esay as we have to make the difference between Blade runners era, STCS and Tsunoo as alone cracker and STCS member under the name The Lord..

From memory Tsunoo cracked :
- L'arche du capitaine Blood
- Silent Service
- Rambo 3
- Hardball! (nice ascii scrolltext )
- Enduro Racer
a lot of french craps

Do you want me to provide you just the list of the disks as well ?

STCS :
- The Classics vol 1 (nice intro) by The Lord


I'll provide you what I have...

[Marcer]

yes i would like to have a look at those disks please.

you can upload them on the ftp..

marcer.dyndns.org port:1698
Demo/Demo

or try email them, but I have limited box at 10mb.
marcer@algonet.se

Thanks for info!

// Marcer

[Marcer]

oh The lord i forgot

I have

The Lord - Bubble Bobble
The Lord - L'arche Du Captain Blood

// Marcer

[Shazz]

Just to get some more fun, here is the point of view of Tsunoo Rhilty from the TROLL & Co. aka The Lord from STCS I have translated...

My question was : who was the best cracker ? (according to the fact that Tsunoo left the scene in 89)

My "outstanding fact" was to crack Dungeon Master. Else I cracked about 10 games under the name 42-Crew france as "Tsunoo" was too wellkown in those times, and I had the chance to know the Ubisoft importer guy [Shazz : which explains that all ubisoft french craps from those times were cracked by Tsunoo]

[...]

I can tell you that the best cracker was 42-Crew : Martin Backschat [shazz : you know FastCopy...] and I can claim it there was nobody better (and probably B.O.S.S would claim it too)

But, as a french cracker, in those times, I was quite alone and the protections were quite easy (excluding Dungeon Master I cracked under the name 42-Crew). So I was a good cracker but not better than the others. But for sure I was the best for the surrounding part : the communication [Shazz : getting the games before they should be released, swapping,...]. Obviously, a cracker who only cracks in his bedroom... it's useless. That's why I was well appreciated and known: I never pretented to be a God or smarter than anybody (as they were on Apple II)

Eh, eh, interesting no ? but for sure it is obvious that the protections were harder to crack in the later years... but the tools were better too...

What about Martin's point of view ?
http://www.blogger.com/profile/2058521

[Showaddywaddy]

Marcer
some new ones not in your lists :-

42 Crew - Fish
42 Crew – Kennedy Approach

CSS - Gateway

STCS – Empire
STCS – Patrice Martin
STCS – Silent Service
STCS – Stellar Crusade
STCS – Truck

Tsundo – Gauntlet
Tsundo – Hardball

Shw

[Shazz]

Eh eh I found a text I was written when I was 15 years old, I was looking for all crews in the scrolltext and giving notes to the cracktros

So I lost a lot of disks but the text is still there

http://tmpstore.free.fr/ST/

It's quite funny for me to read this doc now... and it will give an idea of how in the end of the eighties the cracks were spread in Paris... really few UK things (only one Medway boys CD !), lotsa french and german cracks..

And there are some strange things, like Was (not was) in STCS, DMA in the reps, or Equinox as the Rebels

[Marcer]

Marcer
some new ones not in your lists :-

42 Crew - Fish
42 Crew – Kennedy Approach

CSS - Gateway

STCS – Empire
STCS – Patrice Martin
STCS – Silent Service
STCS – Stellar Crusade
STCS – Truck

Tsundo – Gauntlet
Tsundo – Hardball

Shw

42 crew releases are under Blade runners doh.

others i have to check.. since maybe some of STCS releases also was made under Blade runners..

thanks for info!!

// Marcer

[Marcer]

Eh eh I found a text I was written when I was 15 years old, I was looking for all crews in the scrolltext and giving notes to the cracktros

So I lost a lot of disks but the text is still there

http://tmpstore.free.fr/ST/

It's quite funny for me to read this doc now... and it will give an idea of how in the end of the eighties the cracks were spread in Paris... really few UK things (only one Medway boys CD !), lotsa french and german cracks..

And there are some strange things, like Was (not was) in STCS, DMA in the reps, or Equinox as the Rebels

intressting lists you got!

I would like to have a look of a crack by was not was under replicants

// Marcer

[Shazz]

Let say that my english was not that good 15 years ago

And I probably misunderstood some greetings
But for sure I remember that this was (not was) was really a mystery for me at this period... no greets, simple messages like in Kick Off... (ah ah ah it's a little smaller rob no ?"or sth like that...)

eh eh

I hope you found this list as funny as I found when I found it on a old disk
Just for the little story... TNS, ST60, ST 78, Renegade are... me
Always wanted to be a cracker...

[[ProToS]]

no realy what you search but this link is nice for this subject
The Atari ST Scene Genealogy... 10 years later

[[ProToS]]

forget my link, Shazz have already give it here
http://www.atari-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=42132#42132