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Favourite 3D games that look visually pleasing?

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Looking for a little inspiration...

What ST games spring to mind, when it comes to 3D effects?

Some which are working well for this purpose include:

Stunt Car Racer
Hard Driving
Proton Storm
Elite
Kozmic

But I'm looking for something a bit more trippy, or with more velocity,
like the kind of visual that makes you feel like your nose diving from a great height!

I've spent nearly 3 years (on & off) developing visuals for a music video which I'm finally
on the way to completing and I'm trying to find the perfect high energy moment for a certain part,
featuring something that kinda turns your stomach with high velocity to add in the video.

The music is partly a remix of operation stealth, featuring loads of classic samples from old games
like Barbarian, Arkanoid, making whoopee etc, with my own sprites which I've animated into some of my favourite games,
giving the effect that my character 'Nastynaut' is messing about inside the Atari ST and toying with the gamer
throughout the video.

Anything that might come to mind I'd appreciate! I've been going through all the automation disks but I'd be keen
to know if theres any home brew or strange games that could work for this video, or anything I might
not be aware of that looks visually effective.

cheers!
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Mercenary comes into my mind :)
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What about Powerdrome?
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mikro wrote:Mercenary comes into my mind :)
Yes! That's one I gave a test run for! It's on my list,
I love the velocity, especially in the initial 'crash' scene, the kind of
thing Im looking for. The version I've played is Mercenary: The Second City.
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mrbombermillzy wrote:What about Powerdrome?
spot on! I have a vague memory of playing that, it must have stopped working after I first played it.
trying it on steem now, an excellent suggestion! Thanks
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I remember Mercenary fondly, but for me the best was Virus ported from the Acorn Archimedes on which it was called Zarch. For the time it was visually stunning, and actually for me still is, albeit difficult, but still i remember just loving zooming around the landscape, full of beautiful little details. I remember playing it at school on the Archimedes (A3000 I think) having arguments whether the ST or Archimedes was the best computer with our Science teacher, but of course, before obtaining a copy from a friend for the ST: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp8XVEukaME
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Elite II, Fighter bomber. Thunderhawk is freaking awesome.
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Depends what you mean by 'pleasing' - some '3D' games, in no particular order, which looked really nice although not especially realistic:-

-Interphase
-Starglider
-Backlash
-Virus
-The Sentinel
-Armour-Geddon
-Archipelago

'Backlash' was a filled-in version of the classic arcade vector graphics tank game 'Battlezone' and it kept the frame rate high by making all the missiles and enemy objects spherical, so they looked the same no matter what angle they were viewed from.

'Virus' was a respectable port of an original Acorn Archimedes game 'Zarch', although the original Acorn version was prettier and smoother.
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'Visually pleasing' could include games like Epic, Robocop 3 and Hunter.
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Magic Fly
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Simulcra
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Battle Command
Zero 5 (STE and above only)

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[quote="Atari74user" the best was Virus ported from the Acorn Archimedes on which it was called Zarch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp8XVEukaME[/quote]

I never knew the history of this game, cool to hear about Zarch too! As it happens, Virus is the first game based visual that appears in the video, its the best I could find upto now for the space theme I have going :-)
I think I we're 4 when I first played it, as it was one of the first games I had and yes, I we're fascinated with it as a kid, it used to make my imagination run wild, I'd get lost for hours just flying about for the fun of it.
Excellent suggestion! I can't wait to show people what I've done with Virus haha
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Hazzardus wrote:Magic Fly
Infestation
Simulcra
Carrier Command
Battle Command
Zero 5 (STE and above only)

For demos:
STNICC 2000
Synergy
Thanks for these, I'll check them through today. Infestation is on my list, Battle Command was almost a hit, I used to love that as a kid, but I needed something a bit faster... Sayin that, I we're thinking of battlezone, just realised that now.

I we're tempted to include some demos, but I'm unsure if it'd be appreciated or not. Do you think if I included visuals from a demo in a music video (non commercial), the creators would be happy? I wouldn't want to annoy people in the demoscene, but I'd love to put some demo footage in there.
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siriushardware wrote:Depends what you mean by 'pleasing' - some '3D' games, in no particular order, which looked really nice although not especially realistic:-

-Interphase
-Starglider
-Backlash
-Virus
-The Sentinel
-Armour-Geddon
-Archipelago

'Backlash' was a filled-in version of the classic arcade vector graphics tank game 'Battlezone' and it kept the frame rate high by making all the missiles and enemy objects spherical, so they looked the same no matter what angle they were viewed from.

'Virus' was a respectable port of an original Acorn Archimedes game 'Zarch', although the original Acorn version was prettier and smoother.
Great suggestions thanks! I've got interphase on the list, I'll have to check the others out today. I've included Virus already, it's the first game that appears in the video! Glad to hear many others also appreciate the art of that game. I've also used parts of backlash in a video before, I used to play that for hours, such a cool game & come to think of it, I'll have to use it towards the end of the video when it goes faster.
As for what I mean by visually pleasing, you've hit the nail on the head. I'm looking for games that aren't realistic, infact, the earlier the better as I'm very fond of the early stages in 3D games that have this raw, basic look that can end up looking rather odd at certain points.

I've got many to go with now (I've been churning through games non stop this last few weeks!) but specifically, theres a part in my track where I'd like to have a 3D game going crazy, something like a moment where you'd be falling from a great height and actually feel the velocity when watching it. I remember wipeout for playstation having that effect, but my passion has always stayed with the Atari ST and the fact the graphics are lower resolution makes it more enjoyable for me
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Hazzardus wrote: Simulcra
Wow, I remember playing this ! I'd completely forgotten about it, must have been one that stopped working. Great for this and its got that same kinda feel Virus has, although I've just started getting used to it, gonna try and see if I can get some crazy motions goin on with it
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The killing cloud, with the nice fog effect.
Alpha waves should provide the effect you want.
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I never knew the history of this game, cool to hear about Zarch too! As it happens, Virus is the first game based visual that appears in the video, its the best I could find upto now for the space theme I have going :-)
I think I we're 4 when I first played it, as it was one of the first games I had and yes, I we're fascinated with it as a kid, it used to make my imagination run wild, I'd get lost for hours just flying about for the fun of it.
Excellent suggestion! I can't wait to show people what I've done with Virus haha
Yeah, I do remember it being a demo too, I remember it on screens constantly in my local computer shop, I think for the Archimedes. I remember the fuss at the time because it wasn't just a 3D game, it was a groundbreaking 3D game, shadows, lighting, pretty smooth rendering and little details. Whereas other 3D games prior were nice, but pretty much just polygons on a screen albeit exploiting landscapes to explore (OK that's a little unfair as Elite and Mercenary were BIG revolutionary games for the time). Zarch / Virus really did move things on, and now that i have Googled, was a demo for the Archimedes called Lander to present its processing power.

This little article here is exactly how I remember the story as a kid, complete with teacher allowing us to play it on the Archimedes at school: http://www.flatbatteries.com/zarch.html
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I loved back in time some 3D games on my STE :

- ADS Advanced Destroyer Simulator
- Midwinter
- Fourmula one grand prix from microprose I think...
- Sherman M4
- F16 Simulator 2 (IIRC)
- ??? (can't remember the name of this one today... need to make my brain working... It's a motorcycle game, but it's not No second prize..))
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Playmobil wrote:I loved back in time some 3D games on my STE :
- ??? (can't remember the name of this one today... need to make my brain working... It's a motorcycle game, but it's not No second prize..))
Team Suzuki maybe, or The Ultimate Ride?
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Yes !!! Ultimate Ride !!! Thanks ! We can drive an Harley davdson, or a Kawasaki Ninja ! :)
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