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Preservation Party, York, 17th/18th March 2007

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:03 pm
by daeghnao
I have been in touch with the Student's Union and found out all the details I need for this event, so I consider it definitely on for the 17th and 18th of March here in York, 10 am to 6pm both days with likely an all-you-can-eat meal inbetween. Webpage hopefully up on Sunday, depending on how the weekend pans out. Off the top of my head, I think I'm expecting CIH, felice, retrogamer, muguk, rich and unseenmenace - all the space at my place is booked up already, so the others will have to arrange suitable accommodation. I can scout out places if need be, for now I just need confirmation of who's coming, arrival time, departure time, travel method, what equipment you're bringing and how many disks you have to image. We may be able to get some students using old PCs to image disks, too, to increase our numbers.

Also: anyone with a few disks that they'd like doing who can't make it in person, I'm willing to add them into the pot if you post them to me or get them to someone else who's attending. I'm intending on having people get individual sponsorship (for the Student's Union charity drive) for the total number of disks we collectively image over the two days, any estimates on how many that will be?

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:14 pm
by RetroGamerUK
Hi Daeghnao,
Caps off to you for sorting this out so quickly :wink:
I am thinking about what equipment to bring and noticed you mentioned using some students with old PCs, now although I have an STE with a hard drive, would it be better if I brought my PC instead??
It would also be handy for burning CDs/DVDs and it contains my ST collection.
It is WinXP based, OR I have an old Win98 based PC, would this be better?
The problem with the STE is that I have no way of xferring between it and a PC other than floppies.........
As for accomodation, I would appreciate some help in finding something nearby, and so would Mug I assume, also I would like to know about the parking arrangements at the University, bearing in mind that I have a transit van with a roof rack (not good if the car parks have goal posts at the entrances).

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:55 pm
by felicemaggie
Maybe the local youth hostel (if it is recommended) would be a possible location. Prices are usually cheap enough, even for non-members.

Cheers,

Rich

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:24 pm
by Lautreamont
RetroGamerUK wrote:although I have an STE with a hard drive, would it be better if I brought my PC instead??
No!

Floppies quickly formatted with one of the FCopy family programs are unreadable on a PC.
If people bring many of them (60% of my collection is done with Fcopy), your party will end up in tears.

If you have a 1st class Atari, it's wiser to bring it and dedicate it to those floppies.
There's nothing better than an Atari to read Atari disks.

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:35 pm
by Mug UK
I've got YHA membership if someone needs to loan it for the night? Gets you a discount so long as you pay cash (as they might twig if you hand over a Visa card!)

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:08 pm
by CiH
I managed to prebook ONE of the days off!

The other (Sunday) is fully booked up already, two days before the dates were first announced, grabbing bar-stewards! That comes with a compression effect when the holiday year ends in March and people have to use their remaining leave or lose it altogether. :cry:

I can go if my rota comes up with either a full weekend or Sunday off. The new rota being rolled out looks hopeful in that direction. Update to follow...

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:52 am
by RetroGamerUK
Ok, so I will bring the STE no probs, the PCs will stay at home.
I am still wondering about the car park at the Uni though, and the Hotel availability..

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:26 pm
by daeghnao
RetroGamerUK wrote:Ok, so I will bring the STE no probs, the PCs will stay at home.
I am still wondering about the car park at the Uni though
Car parking is free at the weekends last I looked, will double-check that. There's also room for 3 cars at my house, if I use one of the general visitor spots as well. Will have to mention it to neighbours, otherwise not a problem.
RetroGamerUK wrote:and the Hotel availability..
There are some B&Bs on Heslington Road or off of Fishergate that looked reasonable in terms of price and location. I'll try to compile a little list tomorrow.

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 5:25 pm
by Mug UK
To save on baggage I'll see if I can loan a laptop off my mate and then it's less to drag around. Will be bringing my USB scanner so that boxes, disks and manuals can be imaged up and converted (where necessary) into PDF files.

Justy a pity we don't know when SatanDisk will be available - will be nice to see it used en masse at such an event like this.

Mind you, there's always the option of dumping the images to a SCSI drive and then reading that drive into an image using ppera's imaging tools. Can get at the data afterwards then.

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 10:26 pm
by RetroGamerUK
Why save on baggage? you getting the train now?
Unless you have more than will fit in the back of the Van, I shouldn't worry too much about baggage :wink:

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 10:33 pm
by Mug UK
Was thinking that lumping the large PC around would be a pain .. but then again it's got a SCSI-1 cable coming out the back so all I would need is a USB caddy (already got an "opened" one) which would provide the power and ppera's tools to make backup's on any ST h/drive brought along :)

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 10:35 pm
by RetroGamerUK
Errrr so that would allow easy(ish) xfer between an ST scsi drive and your PC??
If so, it would ocme in handy.

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 10:54 pm
by Mug UK
It would create a 1-Gig image which could be mounted in STEEM via PASTI and then the files could be (I assume) copied off onto a real PC partition via STEEM's desktop.

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:25 pm
by daeghnao
muguk wrote:It would create a 1-Gig image which could be mounted in STEEM via PASTI and then the files could be (I assume) copied off onto a real PC partition via STEEM's desktop.
I'll have all the relevant Linux bits for imaging the drive and accessing its files, but I don't think any of the other PCs will have SCSI. Still, the more different ways of doing it, the higher the chance that it'll get done.

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:08 am
by bodkinz
sorry wont be able to make it to york myself :(

something nearer london and later in the year would be ok for me

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:36 am
by Stethane
I could possibly make it to York that weekend. I can get a bus which takes about 2 hours. I have lots of boxed and un-boxed disks I can bring. I would most likely be travelling on my own though, and would have to find some accomodation somewhere... and you all probably know eachother whereas I'm just a newbie to the forum. :cry: (although I would like to get a copy of the DVD at the end of it.)

I threw out all my old ST magazines recently, but I kept all the disks just in case people wanted to image them and scan the boxes/manuals. I don't have a working ST now, so it would be good to get them to the event somehow.

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:40 am
by Mug UK
Stethane wrote:I could possibly make it to York that weekend. I can get a bus which takes about 2 hours. I have lots of boxed and un-boxed disks I can bring. I would most likely be travelling on my own though, and would have to find some accomodation somewhere... and you all probably know eachother whereas I'm just a newbie to the forum. :cry: (although I would like to get a copy of the DVD at the end of it.)

I threw out all my old ST magazines recently, but I kept all the disks just in case people wanted to image them and scan the boxes/manuals. I don't have a working ST now, so it would be good to get them to the event somehow.
The more the merrier :)

I'm sure there will be space to either bunk down with in a twin room or get yourself a single room in the nearby hotels etc.

Looks like I'll be needing to take my DVD duplicator with me too .. :)

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:43 pm
by RetroGamerUK
If we can have just more than 5 people from the Forum it will be a new record for me :)
I just had a very disturbing thought though. 8O
Daeghnao, who will be the moderator of this party??
Please please please don't say Mug as I would hate to have everything I say all weekend edited and/or deleted :(
Only kidding, as long as there is no cider I am always well behaved :wink:

I noticed on the "who is going" bit that "Rich" is mentioned, is this Richard Davey or Gray? or both? :)

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:43 pm
by daeghnao
Just to continue now that the forum is all returned, there is a webpage at http://www.daeghnao.com/Atari/app2007.html with all the event details, how to register, who's coming and so on. If you have some disks to image up and can't make it along, consider sending them via someone who's attending and we'll include them on the day - or, you could organise a similar event later in the year at a more convenient location :)

Many thanks to everyone who's signed up thus far, it's looking to be a really neat, fun gathering.

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:18 pm
by Mug UK
Gaz from the Jagfest confirmed at the weekend just gone that he's hoping to turn up. His mate just moved to York so he's using that as an excuse to stop over whilst lending a hand where he can.

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:56 pm
by CiH
I'm expecting to be there for Saturday, but can't make Sunday :-(

I'm hoping that the 'preservation' will cover some boxed Falcon 030 originals I'm bringing with me :-)

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:56 pm
by Mug UK
My SatanDisk has been ordered. Time to pick up some cheap SD cards whilst @ Bowlers tomorrow :)

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:09 pm
by CiH
My SatanDisk has been ordered.
Paid for mine as well :-)

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 1:54 pm
by daeghnao
We are here, live at APP2007 and we're imaging disks!

So far we have Mug U.K, CiH, Felice and Wia - RetroGamer cancelled at the last minute, apparently there won't be any simbo, and there's no sign of Unseen Menace as yet. We're imaging on a PC first off, as that's quick and easy. Anything it doesn't get is going to MSA on the STE, and we'll eventually get to the games and use PASTI for those. So, everything going OK so far.

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:11 pm
by aktiv8
Great to hear the imaging has begun....

M ake sure some pics are taken so they can be added to the site or something to see all the antics going on... lol