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Re: Crown of creation test:

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:40 pm
by viking272
lotek_style wrote:Imho... there is -nobody- around these days with DSP knowledge to make a proper crack.
Just hope they've not been bullied off the scene, LOL
http://www.atari-forum.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=37257

Re: Crown of creation test:

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:56 am
by mikro
lotek_style wrote:Imho... there is -nobody- around these days with DSP knowledge to make a proper crack.
On the contrary - the biggest problem for me with this one is that I'm not patient / good enough to play the game. Having this game running in Hatari must be piece of cake to trace, you can basically watch in realtime what is happening on both CPU and DSP side.

So ideally, I would need someone to play the game, when the protection kicks in, I would inspect it, try to work around it, then again sit back and wait for my playing counterpart and repeat 100 times. ;)

Re: Crown of creation test:

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:25 am
by ggn
It's pretty much what mikro said - personally I find the game quite meh otherwise I'd have deprotected it ages ago.

One doesn't even have to play the game - just static disassemble the binary, identify the DSP code, disassemble those bits, analyse, patch, done. It's not rocket science really. But... priorities vary in people and this is quite low on my TODO list. And evidently the same is true for the rest of the people as well.

Re: Crown of creation test:

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:26 pm
by leech
ggn wrote:It's pretty much what mikro said - personally I find the game quite meh otherwise I'd have deprotected it ages ago.

One doesn't even have to play the game - just static disassemble the binary, identify the DSP code, disassemble those bits, analyse, patch, done. It's not rocket science really. But... priorities vary in people and this is quite low on my TODO list. And evidently the same is true for the rest of the people as well.
At which point we could have a 3d engine for the falcon and make new games? :P

Re: Crown of creation test:

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:35 pm
by ggn
leech wrote:At which point we could have a 3d engine for the falcon and make new games? :P
When you finish yours of course.

Re: Crown of creation test:

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:03 pm
by leech
ggn wrote:
leech wrote:At which point we could have a 3d engine for the falcon and make new games? :P
When you finish yours of course.
I would totally create a game. If I had an engine, an artist, a coder, and sound engineer.

Okay, so that'd leave me with coming up with the idea and writing the plot, etc. But I could do that :)

Re: Crown of creation test:

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:04 pm
by ggn
leech wrote:I would totally create a game. If I had an engine, an artist, a coder, and sound engineer.

Okay, so that'd leave me with coming up with the idea and writing the plot, etc. But I could do that :)
Well, you know what to do then, don't let us down!

Re: Crown of creation test:

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:30 pm
by leech
ggn wrote:
leech wrote:I would totally create a game. If I had an engine, an artist, a coder, and sound engineer.

Okay, so that'd leave me with coming up with the idea and writing the plot, etc. But I could do that :)
Well, you know what to do then, don't let us down!
Truly though, if we could get together some people, I totally wouldn't mind writing up an RPG concept or something. Getting all the other talent might be doable though, pretty sure there are enough people that are into pixel art for that, plenty of musicians (could even make one that uses MIDI output), and coders are all over.

I have been meaning to learn how to code for like 20 years, but always run into other things that need to be done.

Re: Crown of creation test:

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:02 pm
by stormy
I think an isometric RPG similar to boulders gate would be possible with the Falcons capabilities, especially with an 060.

Re: Crown of creation test:

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:21 pm
by MacFalcon
mikro wrote:
lotek_style wrote:Imho... there is -nobody- around these days with DSP knowledge to make a proper crack.
On the contrary - the biggest problem for me with this one is that I'm not patient / good enough to play the game. Having this game running in Hatari must be piece of cake to trace, you can basically watch in realtime what is happening on both CPU and DSP side.

So ideally, I would need someone to play the game, when the protection kicks in, I would inspect it, try to work around it, then again sit back and wait for my playing counterpart and repeat 100 times. ;)
Sounds like a task for next year's atariada :lol:

Re: Crown of creation test:

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:45 pm
by broadwing
There is a save file floating around I reckon that allows players to advance enough in the game to the point there they meet the disk verification. Can anyone post it please?