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NeoDesk 4 Icon Disk

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Greetings,

I was wondering if anyone ever found or has a copy of the NeoDesk 4 Icon disk. I thought I had it myself but can't find it anywhere.

Anybody?

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Re: NeoDesk 4 Icon Disk

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I do have that disk. Got the files from it zipped up, ready to go.

However, I just want to make sure that Gribnif's stuff can be
uploaded here legally.

Anyone have any idea if it's okay to do this?

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Re: NeoDesk 4 Icon Disk

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Hi DarkLord,

Any news on the upload of the icon disk?

Thanks for finding disk 2 BTW.

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Re: NeoDesk 4 Icon Disk

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Hi Matt
I think the Icon Desk is part of the Neodesk 4 download so just wondering if they are useable from that?
It looks to be included in the one disk .ST file.

There's no information on distribution of the files but I would say Dan Wilga would want it referenced only from his site?
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Re: NeoDesk 4 Icon Disk

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Hi DarkLord,

Thanks for the quick response.

I doublechecked the download and it's only the install disk. There's a reference on page two of the thread ref above that Gribnif was aware that the icons were not on the download image and was having trouble finding it. I suspect that he must of forgot about it.

It'd be hard to say about the download location. It's disappointing for sure.

Regardless, I appreciate your effort.

Thanks,

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Re: NeoDesk 4 Icon Disk

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Hi Matt, I got this from Gribnif.

The Icon Disk is already part of the NeoDesk 4.06 download.

http://www4.pair.com/gribnif/downloads/neodesk/

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Re: NeoDesk 4 Icon Disk

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Huh, I only see one .st file in that archive. Maybe Dan combined the icon disk with the neodesk one or is it missing.
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Re: NeoDesk 4 Icon Disk

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I also downloaded the file to double check. There are no other icons other than default. Maybe someone that knows Dan could ask him to refresh the zip with the icons?
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Re: NeoDesk 4 Icon Disk

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At the bottom of the page is this paragraph:

NeoDesk Icon Disk
Here’s a collection of over 500 icons separated into categories for easy viewing. There are multicoloured and monochrome appearances, and many icons have different selected states.


Under it is a link to the same installer. Could it be he simply goofed up the link? It appears to me he meant to post the icon disk separately.
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lp wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:43 pm At the bottom of the page is this paragraph:

NeoDesk Icon Disk
Here’s a collection of over 500 icons separated into categories for easy viewing. There are multicoloured and monochrome appearances, and many icons have different selected states.


Under it is a link to the same installer. Could it be he simply goofed up the link? It appears to me he meant to post the icon disk separately.
I noticed that as well. The thread outlined above shows that "Gribnif" was aware that it was missing. Maybe they just didn't get around to correcting the mistake.
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Re: NeoDesk 4 Icon Disk

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Okay, later I'll try to upload that.

Odd, but I don't remember 500 icons or more on it, I'll double check that.

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No problems, I've gone back to Dan @ Gribnif with that question.
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Re: NeoDesk 4 Icon Disk

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I got a reply from Dan already. :D

> You're right! That's what I get for replying based on my own (obviously
> wrong) documentation. I know I pulled it off a floppy at some point,
> though it never made it up to the web site, and now I can't find it in
> any of the usual places, either. I'll look around some more.

We may need DarkLord's disk 2 if Dan can't find his?!
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Re: NeoDesk 4 Icon Disk

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viking272 wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:07 pm I got a reply from Dan already. :D

> You're right! That's what I get for replying based on my own (obviously
> wrong) documentation. I know I pulled it off a floppy at some point,
> though it never made it up to the web site, and now I can't find it in
> any of the usual places, either. I'll look around some more.

We may need DarkLord's disk 2 if Dan can't find his?!
Yup, I agree. Fact is, DarkLord may be the only person in the universe that actually has disk 2.
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Re: NeoDesk 4 Icon Disk

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Yes, I hope he can upload it. I checked my commercial NeoDesk 4.05 box and for some reason I don't have disk 2. Weird. Was the icon disk sold separately back in the day?
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My gut feel is that I think it was - like a small add-on for £5 or $5...
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Re: NeoDesk 4 Icon Disk

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Guys, I seriously doubt if this disk contains 500 icons. I doubt if it has 20-25.

Maybe there was a separate disk that had that many but I don't think this is it.

I dragged everything from the floppy to my Mega STe's hard drive then zipped it up.

Sorry. :(
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Here is a picture of the disk itself:
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Thanks for putting up the icons!
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You're welcome - I hope it's what was needed.
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Re: NeoDesk 4 Icon Disk

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DarkLord wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:24 pm Guys, I seriously doubt if this disk contains 500 icons. I doubt if it has 20-25.
If i understand it, the *.NIC file format can contain any number of icons, so there may be actually that much icons on the disk. But i tried IconJuggler to view them, and it crashed, so i cannot tell for sure.
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ThorstenOtto wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 6:01 am If i understand it, the *.NIC file format can contain any number of icons, so there may be actually that much icons on the disk. But i tried IconJuggler to view them, and it crashed, so i cannot tell for sure.
That may well be it then. I read a couple of posts doing some research on this and there were a couple of comments
about Neodesk not using standard formats for images.

So...I guess we need to try to load these up into an actual running/working Neodesk installation?
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Re: NeoDesk 4 Icon Disk

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DarkLord wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:23 am So...I guess we need to try to load these up into an actual running/working Neodesk installation?
I fear so, yes, unless someone finds some description on the file format. Icon Juggler is supposed to be able to load it, but it looks like there are different versions of the format, maybe it was never adapted to newer versions. A quick look also did not reveal something simple, maybe the data is even compressed.
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Re: NeoDesk 4 Icon Disk

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Hey guyz,

I loaded up the files in NeoDesk and it looks like there are quite a few to be sure. Thanks for your help DarkLord. You may have the only known disk. Anyway I attached a pic of what I found. There are just a few from some of the *.nic files on the disk.

Thanks again.

-Matt

EDIT: I went ahead and counted the icons. There are 558 total.
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