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harleking 3 - Info

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:47 am
by 3AtariSTE
Hello ppls

Just a question about the "harleking 3"...what is the full number + serial?

Thanks you very much
Maurizio

Re: harleking 3 - Info

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:57 am
by calimero

Re: harleking 3 - Info

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:17 am
by Gaiyan
3AtariSTE wrote:Hello ppls

Just a question about the "harleking 3"...what is the full number + serial?

Thanks you very much
Maurizio
I have original and manual for version 3.20 available on my website: http://www.atariancomputing.com/blog/ha ... -themanual

Re: harleking 3 - Info

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:02 pm
by TheNameOfTheGame
Thanks, I only had 3.10. Gaiyan is your version full? I didn't see any serial number.

Shame about Harlekin 95. I saw it advertised for months in the German ST-Computer magazine, but it seems to be never found. Wonder if it was even released?

Re: harleking 3 - Info

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:45 pm
by Gaiyan
TheNameOfTheGame wrote:Thanks, I only had 3.10. Gaiyan is your version full? I didn't see any serial number.
It's a registered version with the information already had(ish)-coded in the files.

Re: harleking 3 - Info

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:58 pm
by penguin
TheNameOfTheGame wrote:Thanks, I only had 3.10. Gaiyan is your version full? I didn't see any serial number.

Shame about Harlekin 95. I saw it advertised for months in the German ST-Computer magazine, but it seems to be never found. Wonder if it was even released?
According to the proTOS 95 article in ST-Computer magazine, it was released. Upgrades were sold at the fair. It's odd that it wasn't reviewed, but in 1996 the editors of the magazine (Maxon) prepared to leave the Atari market, giving the magazine to falkemedia.

Re: harleking 3 - Info

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:03 am
by TheNameOfTheGame
penguin wrote:
TheNameOfTheGame wrote:Thanks, I only had 3.10. Gaiyan is your version full? I didn't see any serial number.

Shame about Harlekin 95. I saw it advertised for months in the German ST-Computer magazine, but it seems to be never found. Wonder if it was even released?
According to the proTOS 95 article in ST-Computer magazine, it was released. Upgrades were sold at the fair. It's odd that it wasn't reviewed, but in 1996 the editors of the magazine (Maxon) prepared to leave the Atari market, giving the magazine to falkemedia.
Very interesting - I hope someone can recover this software. As far as the magazine, one thing that always struck me as strange was the advertising for ASH software. They were advertising in every issue and then they just stopped. That seemed strange since their software was so prevelant. Maybe that was due to the change in management or their business model? Seems like reviews for their software slowed also. Another thing was that the shareware/pd section was so limited which seemed to fall short as that was a vibrant part of the Atari community. The beginner's articles were a great resource though as well as many other aspects of the magazine. I have all falke issues in physical form and every issue digital decompressed and readable on my tablet (12 GB) :lol: . The ones on fujiama are so compressed they aren't very readable, but I decompressed them. Also, of course I scanned the remaining 2003/2004 issues as you know so they can be preserved digitally. Great to learn some of the history of this touchstone magazine. :cheers:

Re: harleking 3 - Info

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:21 am
by penguin
ASH started advertising in 1986. Later they even hired an ad agency to design their ads. Unlike all other companies however, they advertised in ST-Computer only. These ads stopped when Falkemedia took over ST-Computer. However, we had lots of reviews for ASH software - I still have my review copies (various versions of CAB) along with the software I bought (Pure Pascal, MagiCPC, MagiC 6).
Reviewing public domain was Atari Journal's strong selling point. However, one purpose of software reviews is to give you an advice whether the software is worth buying. So it makes sense to concentrate on Signum, Calamus etc. and only cover the pd programs that were too important to ignore (Kandinsky, Sagrotan, CAB <2.0).
How did you "decompress" the magazines? I believe the person scanning these was using a decent scan resolution, but then saved the PDF with the lowest quality for some reason. That's why I have to rescan some articles.

Re: harleking 3 - Info

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:08 am
by kcr2000
I can confirm, that Harlekin95 was released.

Re: harleking 3 - Info

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:33 am
by nagual
kcr2000 wrote:I can confirm, that Harlekin95 was released.
Do you have it ? :D :D :D :D

Re: harleking 3 - Info

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:07 pm
by kcr2000
Yes ;-)

Re: harleking 3 - Info

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:02 pm
by TheNameOfTheGame
penguin wrote:ASH started advertising in 1986. Later they even hired an ad agency to design their ads. Unlike all other companies however, they advertised in ST-Computer only. These ads stopped when Falkemedia took over ST-Computer. However, we had lots of reviews for ASH software - I still have my review copies (various versions of CAB) along with the software I bought (Pure Pascal, MagiCPC, MagiC 6).
Reviewing public domain was Atari Journal's strong selling point. However, one purpose of software reviews is to give you an advice whether the software is worth buying. So it makes sense to concentrate on Signum, Calamus etc. and only cover the pd programs that were too important to ignore (Kandinsky, Sagrotan, CAB <2.0).
How did you "decompress" the magazines? I believe the person scanning these was using a decent scan resolution, but then saved the PDF with the lowest quality for some reason. That's why I have to rescan some articles.
Yes, the resolution was fine, but the pdfs were so compressed it took too long to render each page (at least on my tablet). Decompressing is just simply opening each file and using a pdf print driver to print at the scanned resolution. The file sizes are quite large this way, but for reading it is much better. I was mistaken when I said the files took up 12GB. It is actually over 100GB for all issues uncompressed! Thanks for the information on the magazine. Sorry to derail the thread topic. :cheers:

Re: harleking 3 - Info

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:31 pm
by Gaiyan
kcr2000 wrote:Yes ;-)
Cheese and rice! Any hope of sharing the wealth?

Re: harleking 3 - Info

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:25 pm
by kcr2000
Is it actually abandonware by now?

Re: harleking 3 - Info

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:30 pm
by Gaiyan
kcr2000 wrote:Is it actually abandonware by now?
Considering you might be in possession of the only known copy of Harlekin 95 in the world, I'd say that it is. I've been searching for years for it. I've posted in various forums looking for it. I have had a wanted message on my website about it. I'd be very grateful to get a copy. I'd be willing to buy it outright if you were willing to part with it.

Re: harleking 3 - Info

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:30 pm
by penguin
TheNameOfTheGame wrote: Yes, the resolution was fine, but the pdfs were so compressed it took too long to render each page (at least on my tablet). Decompressing is just simply opening each file and using a pdf print driver to print at the scanned resolution. The file sizes are quite large this way, but for reading it is much better. I was mistaken when I said the files took up 12GB. It is actually over 100GB for all issues uncompressed! Thanks for the information on the magazine. Sorry to derail the thread topic. :cheers:
At least with macOS, the quality doesn't improve at all. The biggest issue are listings (so back on topic ;)). "e", "s" and "a" are just greyish blobs. Reading (and translating) articles might improve soonish though, because I expect all ST-Computer articles from 1986-2004 to be online at stcarchiv.de in late 2019/early 2020.
kcr2000 wrote:Is it actually abandonware by now?


Well, Harlekin 95 was like abandoned immediately after its release :lol:

Re: harleking 3 - Info

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:39 pm
by Gaiyan
I really hope we're not being trolled by kcr2000 as he is not responding here or to my PM despite having read it and being active on the forum...

Re: harleking 3 - Info

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 1:14 am
by TheNameOfTheGame
No, he is not trolling...check the German forum. It is his decision to release it or not. I hope he chooses to preserve the software for the community so it can live again for all the users. :cheers:

Re: harleking 3 - Info

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:55 am
by Gaiyan
TheNameOfTheGame wrote:No, he is not trolling...check the German forum. It is his decision to release it or not. I hope he chooses to preserve the software for the community so it can live again for all the users. :cheers:
Ah, indeed. Apologies to kcr2000. I'm just super excited and I might come off as pushy and entitled.