Hooking up Atari to PC, best program ?

christos · Post by **christos** » Tue May 17, 2005 2:45 pm

In the following link there is a solution to the problem with xp and msdos applications such as ghostlink.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324767#kb3kb3

The speed @115200 is about 8-10Kb/sec so it takes about 10min for an mp3 song to download.
Have fun

christos · Post by **christos** » Tue May 17, 2005 2:47 pm

I' ll never master the buttons of the forum

DrCoolZic · Post by **DrCoolZic** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:24 am

I just want to let you know about my experience with PARCP.
The most difficult part is to build the cable. You must build it by yourself (unless you by it from http://joy.sophics.cz/parcp/parcpdoc.htm#Resources3) as none of the cable on the market works: parallel laplink (for laplink) or parallel null cable (for windows parallel network connection) are both diferent from what you need. Therefore you need to find a dataswitch cable that have the 25 pins connected straight and you just have to invert two wires and cut a bunch of others and therefore if you know how to solder it should not be too difficult. However there are a few things to know: first you need to know that the diagram in http://joy.sophics.cz/parcp/parcpdoc.ht ... dHardware1 shows the connectors from the solder side (in other words not looking from the pin side)! I got it wrong the first time! The second things to know is that when you power up both computers the parallel ports are both on output mode and this is not good for the output ports. Therefore you need to load programs (best on both side) at startup that set the ports in input mode as this is explained in parcp page. However if you are adventurous and want to avoid this problem you can insert 10K resistors on the data wires (pins 2 to 9) using a 8x10K resistors pack. This is more work but you get a 100% safe solution.
Once you have the cable done, parcp works like a charm and is extremely fast.
Note that on the PC side I used an old machine with Win98 to avoid the problem of accessing LTP ports on WinXP. Note that I also had some problem when I first tried it because I did not set the parallel port correctly on the windows machine (you have to do it in the BIOS).
I have not tried HDD_DMN which is supposed to use the same cable but I will try and let you know.
By the way the latest version of parcp is 3.9 which has a nice interface.

Lando_C · Post by **Lando_C** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:34 am

Hi!

Since i dusted off my ataris a month ago (after installing Xsteem on my linux pc, and getting the "flow"), i have been using vt52emulator and XYZ.PRG to log into the PC on a serial port and zmodeming over files between the pc and the atari - and that is all well.

One of the reasons i decide to set up the ST was to have a QUIET computer in the livingroom, for mailreading and stuff, i'e using the atari as a dumb terminal. Unfortunately, this wasnt as easy as I had imagined!

vt52emulator from the language disc is rock solid as emulating a VT52. BUT, for emacs, pine, and most other unix:ish programs I need atleast a vt100 compatible emulator. Many atari comm programs CLAIM to be vt100 compatible, but all i have tried so far are limited in one way or the other:

TeddyTERM 2.14 lacks the ability to scroll downwards and back up ( "less", "emacs" and "vi" get garbled screens..)
STORM has the same problem, and also seems to have problems with rts/cts flow control despite i have "turbocts" in the autofolder on the megafile.
FLASH2 doesnt do vt100 at all, looks like only Glass TTY plus character translation..
CONN95 was ademo version that looked promising, but was limited to 30 hours usage time.. and horridly expensive to register.

What terminal program should I be looking for, and where? I need a *good* vt100 or better emulation, with 8-bit support (latin1) and preferrably auto-transfer zmodem, or auto-call XYZ.TTP capability. Dialers and such are irrelevant as this is on a nullmodem cable. ON a DOS PC i would use MS-Kermit, but the kermit's iäve found for atari only does the transfer protocol and dont include the otherwise excellent terminal emulator..

keili · Post by **keili** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 6:15 pm

Repeating to an old post from Christos, but i've never tried it before.

Hello,
Will ghostlink work with windows xp and how?

It works fine here. I've connected my Mega STE (TOS 2.05) with my PC (Win XP Home SP2) two days ago with a null modem cable. Configured STMASTER and PCSLAVE with 38400 baud. Transfer fails, if i copy more than 4 files and the whole thing is really slow, but a very cheap solution.

DrCoolZic · Post by **DrCoolZic** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 10:51 pm

I have a working parcp cable that works fine with parcp program and that should normally work with HDD DMN.
I am using the V3 of HDD that I got from this thread but I could not make it work. Seems like the ST and PC side are somewhat communicating but connection does not succeed.
If someone has a working HDD connection I woul appreciate any information/help/idea on how to make it work.

Thanks

Symoon · Post by **Symoon** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 7:47 am

Could anyone give me more information about PCTrans and STTrans ?
I've read that they support parallel transfer (with the PARCP cable it seems), is that right ? That would be very interesting if it works like Ghostlink.

I've tried to download them but so far I only found STTrans (even on the archives claiming they hold PCTrans).

Well, if anyone has any information about these programs... Or trhe programs themselves... I'd love to test them between my ST and PC, as I have the PARCP cable. Seems it was on the ST-Book disks...

YouTube · Post by **Zorro 2** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 10:01 am

Symoon wrote:Could anyone give me more information about PCTrans and STTrans ?

I meet you here : http://www.atari-forum.com/wiki, section Transferring file, maybe the informations are interesting ? If you have some fresh informations about that, don't hesitate to update !

Bnicke · Post by **Bnicke** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:46 pm

I made a disk-img and an instruction to a forum-friend some time ago.
here: http://www.bergstrom.se/ghostlnk/
Unfortunate, the readme I wrote, is in Swedish... but basicly it say:

Connect a null moden cable between the Atari and the PC...
Put stmaster.prg, all files from control.zip and msa_2_32.prg on a 720K disk.
put xcontrol.acc in the rootdir and boot the ST with the disk
Open Desk->"control panel" point att the cpx dir, save and reboot
Open control panel again, choose Modem Setup.
Set Baudrate 19200 Bits/char 8 bit, 1 stopbit, no parity, no flowcontrol. I use xcontrol to set the bouderate.. otherwise it will be 9200 I think.
Start stmaster.prg in medium or high res (in low, only half of the GUI vill be visable)
Change (remove/add) the partitions if you want different disk setup, I have z: ALL 1
Save, Install.
Mark a drive (ex a:), options > install diskdrive.. In earlier TOS versions you heve to specify z: (or whatever you choosed in the previous step) and give it a name, in later it just shows up.
Do not open Z: just yet...
Start pcslave.exe on the PC and press F7 to change the bitrate to 19200 and set the appropriate com port.
Now you can browse the PC:s HD(s) on z:.

If you want to read/write a MSA-file from/to the PC, fire up the MSA-II on the Atari and choose MSA-File (Ex. z:\c\atari_st\cuddly.msa) and run File->Disk or Disk->File.

I also made a disk image (GHOSTLNK.MSA) of the disk (720k) which is writable on a MSA-app on PC...

YouTube · Post by **Zorro 2** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 3:06 pm

I update the PARCP utility by version 3.80.

DrCoolZic · Post by **DrCoolZic** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:12 pm

Zorro 2 wrote:I update the PARCP utility by version 3.80.

Note that this is not the latest version. Latest is V3.90 that can be found at http://joy.sophics.cz/parcp/download.htm

Jean

YouTube · Post by **Zorro 2** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:13 am

DrCoolZic wrote:
Zorro 2 wrote:I update the PARCP utility by version 3.80.
Note that this is not the latest version. Latest is V3.90 that can be found at http://joy.sophics.cz/parcp/download.htm

Jean

Well Jean, I don't notice is the last version

DrCoolZic · Post by **DrCoolZic** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:35 am

Not sure I understand ?

You just posted the parcp380.zip file (about 1MB) here and the link I provided points to the parcp390.zip file (about 60 KB).

I do not know what are the differences between these two versions, but I am using the V3.90 which works fine (and fast) for me.
Jean

amigaistheshit · Post by **amigaistheshit** » Fri May 25, 2007 6:03 pm

will a Belkin Null-Modem Serial Cable DB9/25 (Model F3X171-10)

along with GhostLink work on a 1040st?

is this the most recent version of GhostLink?

st dragon · Post by **st dragon** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:10 am

Bnicke wrote:I made a disk-img and an instruction to a forum-friend some time ago.
here: http://www.bergstrom.se/ghostlnk/
Unfortunate, the readme I wrote, is in Swedish... but basicly it say:

Connect a null moden cable between the Atari and the PC...
Put stmaster.prg, all files from control.zip and msa_2_32.prg on a 720K disk.
put xcontrol.acc in the rootdir and boot the ST with the disk
Open Desk->"control panel" point att the cpx dir, save and reboot
Open control panel again, choose Modem Setup.
Set Baudrate 19200 Bits/char 8 bit, 1 stopbit, no parity, no flowcontrol. I use xcontrol to set the bouderate.. otherwise it will be 9200 I think.
Start stmaster.prg in medium or high res (in low, only half of the GUI vill be visable)
Change (remove/add) the partitions if you want different disk setup, I have z: ALL 1
Save, Install.
Mark a drive (ex a:), options > install diskdrive.. In earlier TOS versions you heve to specify z: (or whatever you choosed in the previous step) and give it a name, in later it just shows up.
Do not open Z: just yet...
Start pcslave.exe on the PC and press F7 to change the bitrate to 19200 and set the appropriate com port.
Now you can browse the PC:s HD(s) on z:.

If you want to read/write a MSA-file from/to the PC, fire up the MSA-II on the Atari and choose MSA-File (Ex. z:\c\atari_st\cuddly.msa) and run File->Disk or Disk->File.

I also made a disk image (GHOSTLNK.MSA) of the disk (720k) which is writable on a MSA-app on PC...

your post & MSA file were very helpful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

musashi5150 · Post by **musashi5150** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:01 am

Hi guys, I want to link my STe over null-serial to my Amiga. So I'm looking for a simple program that can send & receive files using X/Y/Z modem.

I've found something called STalker, but it's not free. I have heard of a program called XYZ.TTP but I can't see to find it anywhere. Could someone point me in the right direction please?

alexh · Post by **alexh** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:45 pm

Can you not just use TwinXpress on the Amiga? I think that supports Z-modem etc.

To be honest it's much faster to use 720kbyte Floppy disks, Disksplit and CrossDos on the Amiga.

christos · Post by **christos** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:50 pm

Why don't you use STING to set up a tcp/ip connection to the Amiga. That way you can use ftp or whatever else.

alexh · Post by **alexh** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:56 pm

christos wrote:Why don't you use STING to set up a tcp/ip connection to the Amiga. That way you can use ftp or whatever else.

That would be very slow on a 68000 ST would it not?

Shame there is not an Amiga port of ParCP. I wonder how different ParNET is?

christos · Post by **christos** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:03 pm

No not really. 38400 should be easily attainable with hsmodem.

musashi5150 · Post by **musashi5150** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:21 pm

I already have a nullmodem cable and I'm not too fussed about the speed (it's just for backing up etc) so I'd rather stick to serial.

STING sounds too fancy for my needs - just a vanilla comms program for the ST (like NComm on Amiga) would be fine.

MiggyMog · Post by **MiggyMog** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:50 pm

I agree the Crossdos route is best.

Don't do what I did back in the day & make your own ST > Amiga Serial connection and then use AMOS/STOS to make a crappy program to send the files across

I still have the cable somewhere & part of the dodgy STOS prog...

What was that BBS Prog STF gave us Vanterm or summit?

Kastle · Post by **Kastle** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 6:31 pm

Is there a Ghostlink alternative to Linux, or any software I could connect my Ubuntu to ST (or vice versa, to be precise) with cables, that plain computers stores sell.

Lando_C · Post by **Lando_C** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:45 pm

What I do is I use a terminal emulator on the ST, and run a getty on the ubuntu serial port as you would if you had a serial terminal on it, (see the text-terminal-howto). Then, when you have managed to log in to a shell from the ST into the PC (use the vt52 emulator from the st-basic disc in worst case, or any good communication program of your choice), use lrzsz to zmodem files across the line, and xyz.prg on the atari end. you probably want STZIP as well, and zip on the unixbox, so you can pack whole directories of stuff into single files.

030falcon030 · Post by **030falcon030** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:05 pm

I like how the pc drive comes up as a hard disk, but is there a way to get a program that does this with a Linux pc? Also would be interested to know can I do the same thing from my Falcon to st (like so I can see the falcon like a hard disk on the st) because my st hard disk is quite small.
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