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I Hear 95% of games and no Modem port. That last part is a bit of a dealbreaker for me. Won't* run much past 8MHz either.troed wrote:Does it run the full set of ST demos including fullscreens & sync scrollers? That is, how accurate is the hw emulation.
A modem port could be added to the header the midi expander is currently attached. But i don't see the use case justifying a hardware add-on for this.What's your use case?iceman wrote:I Hear 95% of games and no Modem port. That last part is a bit of a dealbreaker for me. Won't run much past 8MHz either.troed wrote:Does it run the full set of ST demos including fullscreens & sync scrollers? That is, how accurate is the hw emulation.
The main use for my ST is logging in to Packet Radio BBSs. This uses a TNC (effectively a radio modem) which plugs into the Atari ST modem port.MasterOfGizmo wrote:A modem port could be added to the header the midi expander is currently attached. But i don't see the use case justifying a hardware add-on for this.What's your use case?iceman wrote:I Hear 95% of games and no Modem port. That last part is a bit of a dealbreaker for me. Won't run much past 8MHz either.troed wrote:Does it run the full set of ST demos including fullscreens & sync scrollers? That is, how accurate is the hw emulation.
"won't run past 8MHz" isn't entirely true. I currently doesn't run faster. The Amiga core already runs faster and it's sure possible to accelerate the ST as well. The option is actually already in the OSD, but if it's activated the ST crashed immediately. There's still work to do ...
The board itself actually has 32MBytes of RAM. For the ST currently ~14.5MB of these are used (14MB for RAM and 500KBtyes for TOS and cartridge ROM). A real 68000 could not address more than 16MB. The TG68 core in the MIST can address more memory and it should be possible to add another 16MB "alternate" ram.johncarteronmars wrote:Could anyone please tell me if this is correct, using MIST I will be able to have 14mb ram,
view hi-rez on lcd monitor I have with db-15 connection, if i want midi it will be an addon
board at some point in time
I've been doing packet radio with my ST as well ... ages agoiceman wrote: The main use for my ST is logging in to Packet Radio BBSs. This uses a TNC (effectively a radio modem) which plugs into the Atari ST modem port.
Actually i even started to write a packet radio program which i never finished ...Well well, small world! I am currently trying to convert the latest (2004 heheh) version PE1CHL-NET from K&R to ANSI C so it will compile using AHCC. Once that is complete, I am going to start adding new features and trying to support it, maybe get a little community going.MasterOfGizmo wrote:I've been doing packet radio with my ST as well ... ages agoiceman wrote: The main use for my ST is logging in to Packet Radio BBSs. This uses a TNC (effectively a radio modem) which plugs into the Atari ST modem port.
But it's such a rare use case that it just doesn't justify to spend the time to develop a hardware for this. However, i'd gladly support anyone willing to work on such a thing.
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err.. there should be a dropdown list (in Polish) that you can choose the language (angielski --> english)johncarteronmars wrote:OK trying to preorder but when I get to PAYPAL the page is in Polish and of all the countries to select from there be no USA or UK
how are you guys ordering this item
Have not seen this page like this before
never had a problem with Ultrasatan or HxC item
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hm.. what if you could implement this http://www.atari-forum.com/viewtopic.ph ... 43#p162607 into the core?MasterOfGizmo wrote:A modem port could be added to the header the midi expander is currently attached. But i don't see the use case justifying a hardware add-on for this.What's your use case?iceman wrote:I Hear 95% of games and no Modem port. That last part is a bit of a dealbreaker for me. Won't run much past 8MHz either.troed wrote:Does it run the full set of ST demos including fullscreens & sync scrollers? That is, how accurate is the hw emulation.
"won't run past 8MHz" isn't entirely true. I currently doesn't run faster. The Amiga core already runs faster and it's sure possible to accelerate the ST as well. The option is actually already in the OSD, but if it's activated the ST crashed immediately. There's still work to do ...
It depends. If you need more than just rx and tx then things get complicated as the fpga extension connector only has two pins.iceman wrote: I'll PM you about what kind of effort would be involved in adding the modem port.
The MIST is not an exact copy of an Atari ST. But fortunately that also exists. I suggest you order a suska instead. This imho has all the original ports.DarkLord wrote:Okay, wait a minute - so I would *NOT* be able to plug say, a Lantronix serial to LAN
port converter into this and use it to call BBS's?
That...is....sad....
There's no real CPU on the MIST, so there isn't even a 8Mhz clock in the CPU core. Actually it's the memory interface that's by purpose designed to slow the CPU down to something close to 8Mhz.xc8 wrote: hm.. what if you could implement this http://www.atari-forum.com/viewtopic.ph ... 43#p162607 into the core?
When this will be implemented I think it will be really complete: A500 and full STe/Mega STe.....Cool!Planned/Possible
Faster CPU (by using already existing fast ram interface, perhaps cache)
Extended video modes (e.g. 1280x960 monochrome, 640x480 16 colors)
MIDI add-on board
Support for STX (copy protoected) floppy disk images
STE video (4 bit per color, soft scrolling)
STE DMA sound
Blitter (Optional for ST, mandatory for STE)
USB joysticks and gamepads
Oooo... what is then the speed like when running full without the "slow down" feature?MasterOfGizmo wrote:xc8 wrote: There's no real CPU on the MIST, so there isn't even a 8Mhz clock in the CPU core. Actually it's the memory interface that's by purpose designed to slow the CPU down to something close to 8Mhz.
As i wrote, "Turbo" doesn't work for the atari st yet.wongck wrote: Oooo... what is then the speed like when running full without the "slow down" feature?
This is quite fast! Like a 68030 at 50MHZMasterOfGizmo wrote:As i wrote, "Turbo" doesn't work for the atari st yet.wongck wrote: Oooo... what is then the speed like when running full without the "slow down" feature?
But as a reference what's possible look here http://retroramblings.net/?p=280 This is the same cpu as used in the MIST/ST core with the same ram chip on a similar fpga board. The MIST is able to do the same for the ST.
And this is the same core running on the MIST board:qq1975b wrote: This is quite fast! Like a 68030 at 50MHZ
Whoa. That beats the minimig in turbo mode by quite a bit.MasterOfGizmo wrote:And this is the same core running on the MIST board
The minimig v1.1 PCB has a hardware 68000 which can only overclock to 28MHz. Plus being a hard 68000 instructions keep their cycle count where they can be made single cycle in the FPGA.remowilliams wrote:Whoa. That beats the minimig in turbo mode by quite a bit.
Yes I know. Also - turbo is up to 49Mhz these daysalexh wrote:The minimig v1.1 PCB has a hardware 68000 which can only overclock to 28MHz. Plus being a hard 68000 instructions keep their cycle count where they can be made single cycle in the FPGA.
MiniMig core using a TG68 soft 68000 has an identical turbo mode on other FPGA boards.
Here you go:INSPECTOR77 wrote:Will Mist have full midi in/out support, and run midi sequencer software like cubase or notator?
regards
MasterOfGizmo wrote:Here you go:INSPECTOR77 wrote:Will Mist have full midi in/out support, and run midi sequencer software like cubase or notator?
regards
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cxeYKdnYuc
Midi in already worked pretty early as the rx acia irqs were already in place for keyboard/mouse data reception.INSPECTOR77 wrote: Did you test midi in also?
Yes, the matching 4 pin connector needs to be added to the board.INSPECTOR77 wrote: Will need midi addon Solder points?
