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CosmosEx and VanillaMint

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Hi All,

Apologies if this is a dumb question.

I have been successfully using CosmosEx in single TOS for a couple of years now. However, now I want to explore using multi-tasking operating systems and so decided to install VanillaMint on my TT (I am using the ACSI CosmosEx).

After installing VM, I can still access the drives I have on the internal SD card, however, I can no longer access the shared drive or the configuration drive. When I open the FreeMint folder on the desktop, I can see folders have been created for those two drives, but attempting to access them produces a path not found error.

Both my CE_DD and CE_Sting Program’s are still in the auto folder and run successfully on boot.

I am assuming I need to add the eth0 interface into a configuration file somewhere in VM, but I have no idea where.

Is anybody able to help?

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Re: CosmosEx and VanillaMint

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I don't know the CE driver work, but if it works by hooking into the GEMDOS trap you might have to run CE_DD after MiNT in the autofolder, as MiNT does not call the old TOS GEMDOS.
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I recommend upgrading the kernel to the latest from GitHub, I think they fixed some gemdos compatibility recently which solved some of my problems.
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In that case not only the kernel, but all kernel modules (*.km, *.xdd, *.xfs, *.xif) must be updated too.
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Re: CosmosEx and VanillaMint

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Thank you for the help, I have updated the CosmosEx device and also tried running CE_DD after VM in the Auto folder, but neither solved the problem, I still cannot access the network or configuration drive in VM. As soon as I remove VM from Auto and reboot to regular TOS, everything works fine, just not when VM is running.

Any other ideas?

If VM does not work, is there a different multitasking operating system that I can use that works OK with CosmosEX?

Thanks

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Trouble with MagiC and FreeMiNT is that they replace GEMDOS. Which CE_DD is bending to its needs. It's on the TODO list but as usual, spare time is the issue here.
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mikro wrote:Trouble with MagiC and FreeMiNT is that they replace GEMDOS. Which CE_DD is bending to its needs. It's on the TODO list but as usual, spare time is the issue here.
There is this build flag, -DOLDTOSFS, which builds a Mint Kernel using the GEMDOS fs instead of the Mint own FAT driver maybe that could help ?
This flag is activated in the minthat Freemint Kernel Config that the Gemdos Hardrive of Hatari works.

There is a mint kernel build with this flag here:
https://bintray.com/freemint/freemint/d ... ur-000.zip

( minthat inside the auto folder)
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I'd say that -DOLDTOSFS is not guaranteed not to build a kernel that will blow your Atari to pieces. Probably noone used it for years, and I would be supprised if it would compile at all.
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So there is still no support for Shared drive in Magic?

When I open Shared or Config drive in Magic, I see “install.app” (23KB) but it can not be opened or copied!

Will Geneva work with Cosmosex Shared drive?
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This is because FreeMiNT/MagiC overwrites GEMDOS, on which the shared functionality heavily depends.

AFAIK Geneva could work because it focuses on multitasking only, without affecting file system.
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I can confirm Geneva works with CosmosEx in all respects rather well.
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Gaiyan wrote:I can confirm Geneva works with CosmosEx in all respects rather well.
Nice! Now if we can get Geneva to work with the 060 in my Falcon, where my CosmosEX sits, I would be loving it!
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leech wrote:
Gaiyan wrote:I can confirm Geneva works with CosmosEx in all respects rather well.
Nice! Now if we can get Geneva to work with the 060 in my Falcon, where my CosmosEX sits, I would be loving it!
OMG, how much incompatibility these days in Atari world... :) in 80s it was so easy!


So there is no way for ComsosEx Shared drive to work under MiNT or MagiC?
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Of course it is possible, but for that the shared drive driver has to be made compatible with these operating systems. The easy solution is to make proper filesystem drivers (XFS).
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calimero wrote:So there is no way for ComsosEx Shared drive to work under MiNT or MagiC?
As soon as somebody ports CE_DD.PRG into a XFS module it will work flawlessly. :) Not much work, in fact it would be a nice exercise for anyone who would like to learn how to write a kernel module. :)
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leech wrote:Now if we can get Geneva to work with the 060 in my Falcon, where my CosmosEX sits, I would be loving it!
"We" certainly can, unfortunately Dan Wilga seems to be cleaning up sources for release for second year now, so ...
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mikro wrote:
leech wrote:Now if we can get Geneva to work with the 060 in my Falcon, where my CosmosEX sits, I would be loving it!
"We" certainly can, unfortunately Dan Wilga seems to be cleaning up sources for release for second year now, so ...
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Nice to hear that we can expect in future compatibility for Mint :)

One more question: XFS, filesystem drivers, are compatible between Mint and MagiC?
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Re: CosmosEx and VanillaMint

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No, they are completely different.
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