Search found 8 matches

by Thenesis
Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:08 pm
Forum: MiST
Topic: Do you still use a MiST exclusively?
Replies: 37
Views: 1512

Re: Do you still use a MiST exclusively?

Yeah, that looks like a great chip to use. I'm not sure how the final product's price would be affected, maybe it could be lower than 300 EURs. I'm sure it would be a great product, but how commercially feasible - I don't know. Yes, I think also any price above 250 euros is too much for this kind o...
by Thenesis
Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:33 pm
Forum: MiST
Topic: Do you still use a MiST exclusively?
Replies: 37
Views: 1512

Re: Do you still use a MiST exclusively?

I think adding a bigger FPGA or more RAM chips would require BGA anyway, which yeah, sucks. E.g. Cyclone 10 with 55k LE only available in BGA packages (but this has no official DDR2 support). Cyclone V, MAX 10 ditto. Cyclone 10 supports DDR3 only with the GX family (which supports also DVI/HDMI), n...
by Thenesis
Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:35 am
Forum: MiST
Topic: Do you still use a MiST exclusively?
Replies: 37
Views: 1512

Re: Do you still use a MiST exclusively?

For a real MiST-next, I would think about these extra features: - bigger FPGA (55k LE at least) - 512 Mbit SDRAM - Another SDRAM chip (maybe just a socket for a DDR2 laptop RAM module? They're still available and cheap) - Digital outputs (even only digital output - then one can choose to attach a D...
by Thenesis
Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:54 am
Forum: MiST
Topic: It's no more a MiSTery
Replies: 402
Views: 80350

Re: It's no more a MiSTery

Personally I'd like two ST cores - one with maximum hardware compatibility for games and demos, and one with maximum speed for "work". Combining both into a single core might work but I suspect it will be easier to develop these cores individually. A core developed for speed does not need very deta...
by Thenesis
Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:29 am
Forum: MiST
Topic: How actively are you using your MiST?
Replies: 94
Views: 21309

Re: How actively are you using your MiST?

Also the current implementation of the Atari ST uses a lot of FPGA resources because it uses a lot of processes instead of combinatorial circuits. You're comparing apples with oranges here. A "process" (it's more like a term in VHDL) can contain combinatorial and sequential logic, too. "always" blo...
by Thenesis
Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:45 pm
Forum: MiST
Topic: How actively are you using your MiST?
Replies: 94
Views: 21309

Re: How actively are you using your MiST?

Would we gain much more with a MiST 2? A Mist 2 is useless for implementing an original Atari ST or Amiga, or any 8-bit and 16-bit console. It only makes sense if someone needs more power. Also the current implementation of the Atari ST uses a lot of FPGA resources because it uses a lot of processe...
by Thenesis
Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:31 pm
Forum: MiST
Topic: How actively are you using your MiST?
Replies: 94
Views: 21309

Re: How actively are you using your MiST?

Also I would welcome some extra IO pins. The Max 10 10M50SCE144C8G has 101 I/O pins instead of 82 for the Cyclone of the Mist. It uses the same packaging and the same number of pins. The extra pins could be used for other external circuits (but the more circuits, the costier) or for using a 32-bit ...
by Thenesis
Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:16 pm
Forum: MiST
Topic: How actively are you using your MiST?
Replies: 94
Views: 21309

Re: How actively are you using your MiST?

Mist is not going to die. Would be nice a Mist / Mistica 2 with Ciclone V (for 100% Mister compatibility) The Cyclone V is marginally better than a Cyclone 3 for emulation. It uses less energy and less LEs for the same circuit but it's not worth the price difference. The difference in frequency is ...

Go to advanced search