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Re: WIFI for all ataris over serial!

Postby christos » Sat May 26, 2018 12:17 pm

Ok, I connected the esp01 using the usb2ttl adapter I used to program it and I opened it in arduino ide's serial monitor. I don't read anything. I don't see the blue led lighting up at all.
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Re: WIFI for all ataris over serial!

Postby czietz » Sat May 26, 2018 12:28 pm

That's weird. Even if you had flashed it wrong, you should still see the boot ROM output, i.e. some messages at 74880 bit/s. The last idea I have is to check whether the CH_PD pin is really high, i.e. connected to Vcc. Other iirc the ESP-01 module won't boot.

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Re: WIFI for all ataris over serial!

Postby christos » Sat May 26, 2018 2:23 pm

OK, I was very very stupid... I connected RX to TX on the max232 but I should have connected it RX-RX.

It works now. Thank you for your help czietz and thanks for your work on the firmware and the software package.
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Re: WIFI for all ataris over serial!

Postby christos » Sat May 26, 2018 3:02 pm

BTW, any idea on how I can set it to serial2 so that I can get higher speeds?
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Re: WIFI for all ataris over serial!

Postby czietz » Sat May 26, 2018 3:09 pm

If you have loaded the HSMODEM driver for serial2, you should be able to select that from the STinG config in the control panel. I don't have it running right now, look for something like "ports". Probably there is a STinG howto somewhere explaining this more in detail.

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Re: WIFI for all ataris over serial!

Postby christos » Sat May 26, 2018 4:10 pm

I guess it needs some searching because I wasn't able to configure it. Anyway, thanks for your help :)
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Re: WIFI for all ataris over serial!

Postby christos » Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:00 pm

OK, I've had partial success in getting sting to use serial 2 by changing the route.tab to Ser.2/LAN. However when I try to open the connection I see the blue led of the esp lighting up but eventually the system ends with connection time out.
I think I am missing something since I am not that experienced with the mega. The falcon only has one serial port so things were kind of easier there..
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Re: WIFI for all ataris over serial!

Postby Atariosimus » Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:03 am

Hi christos you can see also what is possible and how to configure a megaste in this thread here.
https://forum.atari-home.de/index.php/t ... 7.140.html

I do testing it with 56700 baud in the moment and it works very reliable and stable.
I have done some checks with litchi and cab.

Next step is to increase the baud rate a little bit more to see how far we can go.
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Re: WIFI for all ataris over serial!

Postby christos » Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:10 pm

Ok.. thanks for your research. Hopefully with google translate it will work
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Re: WIFI for all ataris over serial!

Postby Atariosimus » Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:03 am

Look at the pictures for easy understanding. In the moment I tried with 230400 baud. With telnet it is possible to set it back down to lower Baud.
So there is no fear to clear the firmware for new flash.

My impression is in the first testings that it is not so fast as hoped. I guess the Atari cannot solve so much datas and the calculation is lasting very long.
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Re: WIFI for all ataris over serial!

Postby christos » Tue Aug 07, 2018 4:20 pm

Atariosimus, I managed to get 38400 and connect at both 57600 and 115200 on modem 2. Unfortunately the last two speeds are not stable and the system keeps losing connection. Still I had success.

On an unrelated note, I am really not sure what I had done wrong with my experiments because I had the same settings as you.. Anyway, thanks, I'll get back to you with any of my findings.
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Re: WIFI for all ataris over serial!

Postby Atariosimus » Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:23 pm

Some helping hints for you

1) Did you change the rate in cpx modul?
2) Did you save the sting.prt?
3) Did you change the route.tab in the sting file?
4) 8Mhz or 16Mhz Mega Ste. I have done it with 8Mhz.
5) Check the Hsmod6 files of Harun Scheutzow
6) Did you do Autosort in the Auto Folder

Hope this check list helps you.

But anyway I feel no gain between 56700 and 230400. I set it back to 56700 in the moment.
May be the secret is in the hardware.
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Re: WIFI for all ataris over serial!

Postby christos » Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:42 am

Atariosimus wrote:Some helping hints for you

1) Did you change the rate in cpx modul?
2) Did you save the sting.prt?
3) Did you change the route.tab in the sting file?
4) 8Mhz or 16Mhz Mega Ste. I have done it with 8Mhz.
5) Check the Hsmod6 files of Harun Scheutzow
6) Did you do Autosort in the Auto Folder

Hope this check list helps you.

But anyway I feel no gain between 56700 and 230400. I set it back to 56700 in the moment.
May be the secret is in the hardware.


Any chance you could upload your setup here so that I can copy it to my machine?
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Re: WIFI for all ataris over serial!

Postby Atariosimus » Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:51 am

Hello Cristos here are the files
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Re: WIFI for all ataris over serial!

Postby Atariosimus » Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:53 am

Internet.zip


Hello Christos, hope the file helps you to investigate whats going wrong.
I saw your message late but not too late :-)

The TCP.STX is different from the original. Czietz has done some fix in there but i don't know what he has changed.
But anyway this should not be the main problem. You can also take the original file.

You have to rename the files in AUTO with .prg
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Re: WIFI for all ataris over serial!

Postby christos » Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:39 am

Thank you very much. I think my problem is with the serial buffers.
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Re: WIFI for all ataris over serial!

Postby czietz » Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:49 am

Atariosimus wrote:The TCP.STX is different from the original. Czietz has done some fix in there but i don't know what he has changed.
But anyway this should not be the main problem. You can also take the original file.


Some servers use the "Type of Service" field in the IP header in a way that STinG's TCP.STX doesn't understand. It causes the connection never to become established. This is what I changed in TCP.STX v.1.41 that Atariosimus attached. I agree, though, that this is not the main problem. It only affects certain servers, notably ftp.lip6.fr. (Also, in some cases your Internet provider might modify that IP header field, therefore unintentionally fixing the problem for you.)

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Re: WIFI for all ataris over serial!

Postby christos » Sat Sep 15, 2018 1:13 pm

Atariosimus wrote:Internet.zip

Hello Christos, hope the file helps you to investigate whats going wrong.
I saw your message late but not too late :-)

The TCP.STX is different from the original. Czietz has done some fix in there but i don't know what he has changed.
But anyway this should not be the main problem. You can also take the original file.

You have to rename the files in AUTO with .prg


Your setup performs better than mine but it does have the same eventual problem. After awhile of downloading it gets progressively slower to respond until it stops responding altogether. I think the problem is on my mste. Anyway, thank you very much for your help.

Edit: Actually I spoke too soon. Internet works much better now! Only binary transfers have the issue. Maybe better software will fix it.

Edit 2: Czietz, how does wgetst.ttp work? I haven't managed to do anything with the wget parameters.
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Re: WIFI for all ataris over serial!

Postby Atariosimus » Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:28 pm

Did you raise the baudrate to the max. If so what is your impression?
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Re: WIFI for all ataris over serial!

Postby christos » Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:43 pm

Nope 57600 only. I get a max of 2k/s download.
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