The Atari IBM PC Owners Thread (PCx Series, ABC, Portfolio)

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Re: The Atari IBM PC Owners Thread (PCx Series, ABC, Portfolio)

Postby Eamonshoot » Sat Jun 04, 2016 6:09 pm

Hi FlaminJoe,

Another question for you if you don't mind. Reading back through this post, you were looking into the jumpers on the PC3 motherboard (jumper block W4) - did you ever find out anything more on this and if the machines does support 1.44mb drives?

Thank you

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Re: The Atari IBM PC Owners Thread (PCx Series, ABC, Portfolio)

Postby FlaminJoe » Sat Sep 03, 2016 5:18 am

Eamonshoot wrote:Hi FlaminJoe,

Another question for you if you don't mind. Reading back through this post, you were looking into the jumpers on the PC3 motherboard (jumper block W4) - did you ever find out anything more on this and if the machines does support 1.44mb drives?

Thank you


Sorry for the very late reply, I've been very busy and haven't had much time for my hobbies lately.

Yes I have found what the jumpers do, refer to my website. They just configure whether or not there are one or two floppy drives in the system.

http://www.ataripc.net/pc3-8088/motherb ... -settings/

As for 1.44mb support, you will only get that through an expansion card as the BIOS does not support anything higher than 720k.
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Re: The Atari IBM PC Owners Thread (PCx Series, ABC, Portfol

Postby ozy2000 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:32 pm

AtariZoll wrote:Launching of IBM PC compatibles was considered by most of ST and follower owners as not good move, almost as betrayal. And there were reasons for it - development of ST line was not really strong. We (and press) just thought that Atari wants to make money in easier way.


Hmmm that's quite an interesting point, thinking back I don't think I felt like that myself. Commodore also made PCs too and I owned a 520STM and Amiga 1000 together and a VCS and C64 before them lol so obviously I was a fan of both.

Back in the IBM 8086 era of the UK, we are talking 1986 in schools basically, I had the dubious pleasure of using such a device as an IBM PC compatible(RM Nimbus). What a horrible machine it was with a user interface inferior to that of the VIC-20, and STILL was in the 1992 80486 era actually, the problem was DOS and horrendous sound of PC (Adlib is no better). The Research Machines Nimbus PC XT class machine I used had 3.5" disk drives at least (making it easy to edit code at home on my ST).

However I looked at what Atari (basically looking for the magic words EGA being present instead of CGA as in the case of the inferior Amstrad 1512 PC for £399...forget Wikipedia saying £499 btw, Alan Sugar says it is on sale for £399 himself on Microlive) was offering and the price concluded that's not bad. When I saw an Atari PC-1 in a store for the first time what struck me was just how much more compact it was than ANY PC, it was the most stylish PC in the world at the time if you ask me. Sadly I can not remember the price in the UK when launched and nobody ever seemed to bother scanning the advert I remember as far as Google cares. I though at the time if you have to use a P.o.S. PC DOS compatible it might as well be the Atari PC-1. Spend the money saved on the machine and smaller desk required to use it on a couple of RAM upgrades for the superior 68000 based machines I did own lol

Anyway, I made an impulse buy today of a PC-1 and keyboard, cost wayyyyyyyyyy too much IMO but I guess I saved a bit on postage. Trouble is everything about this era of PC seems to be a struggle.

Can I use an ST mouse with the Atari PC-1 type searches brings up PC mouse adaptors for the ST. Then searching for RS-232 or COM mouse again brings up nothing to do with the Atari PC-1, and even worse the Atari PC-1 has a dedicated mouse port so I have resorted to messaging people who may have an old Amstrad PC1512 mouse etc. EGA to VGA cable/converter doodah searches bring up topics that mention VGA cards are compatible with EGA modes etc etc. Drives me nuts.

Still, I did power it on with the keyboard connected, it seemed to do the usual stuff old 8086 PCs did before the double beep for DOS disk prompt.

So yeah, I wanted one but a complete setup with monitor [for sure] and mouse [would be nice for GEM]. I am technically a member of the club now, final machine in my Atari 16 bit collection acquired. If I can get/see it working I will work on a gas based de-yellowing restoration of the casing and then acquiring some GEM boot disks to use with it :D

(The Amstrad 1640PC also had a serial mouse, EGA and early version of GEM bundled with it so maybe they will work, worst case I can at least check the drive reads 5.25" disks correctly)


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