Best fullscreen screen.

[Dbug]

- Next's main menu of the Phaleon is also really nice
[...]
Unfortunately most overscan demos were... rather boring, which is understandable because it's hard to code overscan. But still it's a shame.

Well, it's not that hard, I guess that nearly half of the screens I coded were Overscan partly or entirelly. And in the Phaleon in particular we have a poo load of them

[Tanis]

Nice to hear that so many of you think the Cuddly demo stuff was so good. It's great for us to hear that you still remember our stuff. We had a great time doing them.

[Dbug]

Whaou, "Tanis", long time memories strikes back

[Tanis]

Hehehe... yes, quite. It has indeed been a few years since we all sat in our fastfood smelling rooms with the blinds down and pixels occupying our minds (or longwords if you were a coder ).
It's hard to remember those days without being filled with nostalgia. I only wished my parents would've gotten me another pair of glasses. The eighties style glasses were just awful.

[Gunstick]

Ok, Tanis, what is *your* favorite overscan screen you have seen?

Greetings from Luxembourg,
Georges

[ryo]

is the technique of programming of the overscan really specific to ST where that exists on other computers, in particular C64?

[earx]

Programming overscan with CPU-clock timing is not specific to Atari ST. It was done on C64 before, indeed. However, what is specific to Atari ST is syncscrolling, a technique more or less evolved from overscan routines..

[illegal]

well, i remember the first one was very early in the age if the atari scene

just à bottom overscan, by Tex, in the little sound demo

it is my favourite bottom overscan...

But if you consider fullscreen, the level 16 one was a fake one, i prefer only the ones from the cuddly demos by tcb

[bod/STAX]

Erm, I'm assuming the .PRG with sound sample/background colour change/reset proof and not the fullscreen in the Union demo?

[Arch Deviant]

I remember a fake overscan on the spectrum

on paperboy it used rasters to generate a pair of handlebars in the top border, that was the first time I had seen anything meaningful in a border.

The first time I saw rasters was on cybernoid I think... amazing at the time

[bodkinz]

Also on the Speccy was a game called "Darkstar" which had a sort of space invader in the top border using rasters if i remember correctly... I remember this game because when my mother used the hoover the game would unpause for some strange reason...

[keops]

speaking of fullscreen screens, you might want to try this demo:

http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=26007


It features a fullscreen effect I missed back in the days, I did not know Omega did it that early.

[unseenmenace]

Unless I'm mistaken it opens all borders except the left one so it must be a very early one. Still some nice stuff in there once I figured out how to navigate around the menu's and tunes

[leonard]

never seen that demo... pretty cool for the period. Left border opened ! (I though "amiga demos" by TEX was the first one to open left border, am I wrong ?)

[Nyh]

never seen than demo... pretty cool for the period. Left border opened ! (I though "amiga demos" by TEX was the first one to open left border, am I wrong ?)

Either The Amiga demo by TEX or the Fnil demo by TNT. I am not sure who was first.

Hans Wessels

[keops]

It's the right border, not left. Right border in Amiga demo as well (march 1988) if I'm not mistaken.

http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=11834

[leonard]

Oh sorry I made mistake in my message. The OMEGA demo removes right border only, right? (or is another SainT bug ? )

If yes, then it's exactly as the TEX "Amiga demos". So who were the first?

btw the FNIL don't remove any left or right border, am I correct?

[keops]

It seems that Tex did it before in the Amiga demo (right border)

About the FNIL, I don't exactly remember, gotta check

[evil]

Oh sorry I made mistake in my message. The OMEGA demo removes right border only, right? (or is another SainT bug ? :-))

If yes, then it's exactly as the TEX "Amiga demos". So who were the first?

If the left border is not removed, then it's another emulator bug. The demo has a fullscreen with all borders removed. It's _very_ tricky to get it working, but it's possible.

And even if the Omega-demo didn't remove the left one; the "Amiga demo" by TEX doesn't remove the top border, which ofcourse, the Omega one does.

Basicly; rewrite your ST demo history, Level 16 in the Union demo were not the first to do fullscreen, Omega was, in 1988.


Here is a PAL screendump from the Atariscene 1985-1988 DVD showing Omegas fullscreen.

[leonard]

Oh this is really interesting ! I never see that demo !

complete fullscreen in 1988? Could you give us an URL with a disk image?

[keops]

Leonard: I think that Evil is talking about this one:
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=26007

He once sent me the .msa. I knew this demo but I never reached the main menu till Evil told me about the reset thing

[ijor]

It does open the left border. But seems the timing is wrong and it works in one wakeup only.

[bod/STAX]

How exactly do you select the demos? I can scroll the list but can't select anything.

[alexh]

Page Up

[bod/STAX]

Thanks.