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mpattonm wrote:EmuTOS guys are currently discussing possibility to enable transparent mode switing within EmuTOS itself, if they decide to do so, even a passive DIN13_2_VGA converters and dual mode cables will work this way.
ube wrote:The switch will be available from Exxos' store by next week, hopefully I have to add; ran out of HD15-connectors and I've just placed an order with Mouser. Hopefully they will be here by Monday so I can send a bunch of them over to the UK.
https://www.exxoshost.co.uk/atari/last/storenew/#0107
troed wrote:You have to fool the apps that they're starting in the resolution they were written for, while at the same time switching both back and forth from the resolution you initiated, _and_ you need to keep TOS/GEM/AES/VDI happy since it definitely is unable to switch out its internal data structures on the fly and will happily bomb out ...
mikro wrote:As a coder I appreciate the beauty of this but ... isn't this just a waste of (your) resources? What's wrong with patching, say, the desktop resolution dialog and let the user choose appropriate resolution, similarly as PeP did with his SuperVidel driver?
dhedberg wrote:mikro wrote:As a coder I appreciate the beauty of this but ... isn't this just a waste of (your) resources? What's wrong with patching, say, the desktop resolution dialog and let the user choose appropriate resolution, similarly as PeP did with his SuperVidel driver?
For any serious work (copying files, running any GEM application, etc.) ST-High is the preferred resolution. However, once in a while you need to start that soundtracker (or whatever) that only runs in ST-Medium/ST-Low. Having to reset the computer to do so would mean you'll lose any open windows, etc. Now with Troed's little nifty program you can run the soundtracker and return to your desktop in ST-High with the open windows still there, just as before.
troed wrote:Troed is still developing the software in that video, which is really tricky* and hijacks a bunch of TOS stuffIt's my intention to have a shortlist of apps which work as they should, and hopefully then continue expanding.
(A desk acc which just switches resolution _with reboot_ is easy)
/Troed
*) You have to fool the apps that they're starting in the resolution they were written for, while at the same time switching both back and forth from the resolution you initiated, _and_ you need to keep TOS/GEM/AES/VDI happy since it definitely is unable to switch out its internal data structures on the fly and will happily bomb out ...
mikro wrote:dhedberg wrote:mikro wrote:As a coder I appreciate the beauty of this but ... isn't this just a waste of (your) resources? What's wrong with patching, say, the desktop resolution dialog and let the user choose appropriate resolution, similarly as PeP did with his SuperVidel driver?
For any serious work (copying files, running any GEM application, etc.) ST-High is the preferred resolution. However, once in a while you need to start that soundtracker (or whatever) that only runs in ST-Medium/ST-Low. Having to reset the computer to do so would mean you'll lose any open windows, etc. Now with Troed's little nifty program you can run the soundtracker and return to your desktop in ST-High with the open windows still there, just as before.
Yes, I get this. What I meant that he would apply his clever idea to the desktop dialog only, therefore he wouldn't need to worry about compatibility with all the apps/games executed with the TTP.
It would be the same as with the Falcon: a demo doesn't run on VGA, so you just switch to RGB. Here it would be super easy, just go to resolution dialog and change it (without reboot). I think it doesn't make sense to try to lie to the OS that the resolution hasn't changed. Since TOS4 there's even proper AES message for resolution change, nothing terrible about it.
mikro wrote:What's wrong with patching, say, the desktop resolution dialog and let the user choose appropriate resolution
Greenious wrote:Have you looked at the overscan/lacescan drivers how they do it? LaceScan also works with virtual resolutions.
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