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Re: ST-BOOK ROM dump?

Postby Shredder11 » Sun Aug 11, 2013 4:26 pm

Maybe try running it with Hatari?

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Re: ST-BOOK ROM dump?

Postby kristjanga » Sun Aug 11, 2013 6:46 pm

where can i find the TOS tools ( tools to save tos from computer to file and convert .bin to .img)

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Re: ST-BOOK ROM dump?

Postby sarnau » Mon Aug 12, 2013 5:36 am

simbo2 wrote:ill be around again soon as i have net at home again


The file only has 11292 bytes of data, the rest is 00 bytes. Doesn't look like the right one.

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Re: ST-BOOK ROM dump?

Postby Guest » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:12 pm

well back online today so catching up
ill re read the rom and check it out
i am having problems with my p3 and its parallel port
the main machine and laptop dont have a LPT port

so its back to the known dell old single core
and fix it so it boots again
few days ill repost it
till then ill remove it from the post i made
however rest assured ill get it fixed

i need to write about 5 or so sorry :oops:

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Re: ST-BOOK ROM dump?

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:06 am

ok so here is the reread image

i checked it three times this time
but i still need more otp roms to flash some
havent ebayed for the correct ones
let me know this copy is ok

incidentally the chip its burned too is a 27C4096-10 {100ns 4Mb}
you can use a 4002 etc if you like but keep to the 100ns timings
and skip write 0XFF to the end of the rom

the zip file below is just set to 'store' mode so the file is about the same size
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Re: ST-BOOK ROM dump?

Postby SteveBagley » Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:56 pm

simbo2 wrote:ok so here is the reread image

i checked it three times this time
but i still need more otp roms to flash some
havent ebayed for the correct ones
let me know this copy is ok


Hmm, byteswapping that file and looking at it in a hex editor strongly suggests that it hasn't been read properly (looks like bits 15-13 are all set on and bit 2 of each word is dodgy). See:

Code: Select all

00000000  e0 2e e2 06 e0 e4 e0 34  e0 e4 e0 04 e0 04 e9 74  |.......4.......t|
00000010  e0 e4 e0 34 e0 e7 e5 26  e3 14 f9 96 e0 04 f8 6e  |...4...&.......n|
00000020  e0 04 fe 9e e0 04 f1 6d  e0 04 fd 7c e0 04 e0 04  |.......m...|....|
00000030  e6 fc e7 04 ee 74 ec bd  fa 56 e3 5f e0 fe e0 04  |.....t...V._....|
00000040  e6 0e ed fe e0 0c ee fd  e0 fe e0 04 ed fe e0 06  |................|


Compared with the german TOS:

Code: Select all

00000000  60 2e 02 06 00 e0 00 30  00 e0 00 00 00 00 69 70  |`......0......ip|
00000010  00 e0 00 30 00 e3 25 52  03 10 19 92 00 03 18 6a  |...0..%R.......j|
00000020  00 00 3e 9a 00 00 11 6d  00 00 5d 78 00 00 00 00  |..>....m..]x....|
00000030  46 fc 27 00 4e 70 0c b9  fa 52 23 5f 00 fa 00 00  |F.'.Np...R#_....|
00000040  66 0a 4d fa 00 08 4e f9  00 fa 00 04 4d fa 00 06  |f.M...N.....M...|


Steve

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Re: ST-BOOK ROM dump?

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:05 pm

i did read and verify three times

before i saved

i do agree i may have issues
its a copy willem programmer i used
i need a new one for sure

ill ask doug little to read it off
next week ill order some better usb effort and see where it lives then

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Re: ST-BOOK ROM dump?

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:39 pm

excellent feedback

so i re trod on my willem using pcb3 settings
and here is the result

a long way from the E0 senario

check this over

let me know

lots of issues with the willem and some eprom types read and write

hope i got it now
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Re: ST-BOOK ROM dump?

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:46 pm

still does not look right

ill employ other methods to read it and go visit a pal

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Re: ST-BOOK ROM dump?

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:59 pm

well ive tried reading other eproms namly tos 4.04 and get similar erroros
the software i have for my dual power willem is not the original one
so i think lacks some support for my dual 3.5b and 5.0c board type
i think ill just bite the bullet and get a new v7.1 type from ebay
it has native support for the 16bit types like the 4096
im so pissed off now ive recked the house trying to find the original daft cd
the software i need allows the front end program to change between 3.5b and 5.0c
i am sure eventually ill fix it ive lost one of the hdds in the mix from my older dell

i did however manage to save all the images i fixed and tested and crc checked varified and packed

ill upload them to dev site soon

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Re: ST-BOOK ROM dump?

Postby Mal7921 » Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:29 am

Hi Simbo and of course the rest of the gang here :-)

First an apology for my absence, I've not been well over the last 12 to 18 months in part due to stress. Now my wife (Oh yes, got married nearly 10 months go :)) now earns enough to cover most of the household bills so I'm considering retirement from the IT industry within the next couple of months and then deciding what I want to do next.

But enough of that depressing life malarkey.

Good to see progress on this, the ST Book has probably never been well understood as there were so few of them produced so not many available to study. However the advantage being there are probably few revisions so the likelyhood is once you have seen and studied one you have seen them all :D

With the ROM, do we now have different language versions? I've missed quite lot on this and other Atari related stuff and am trying to catch up on certain things
The collection:

Atari 260ST, 520ST, 520ST+, 520STfm
Atari STe
Atari Falcon, 14MB, 40GB IDE drive

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Re: ST-BOOK ROM dump?

Postby Guest » Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:20 am

ok

well so far ive defo got german and usa roms
ive ordered a better usb bit of kit from mcumail where ive done work before on crap like the top2000 3000 range
there whole programmers even now directive scrtipts in the inf for programming front end directives on event
does not include the eprom voltage levels and timings so cant program them at the correct vpp etc and elevated vdd

they have never program all ics and defo not eproms if anyone has a top programmer i can supply details of mods to there software
typical Chinese full of
im right as i copied the right guy

stick to dataman i think more and more
i remember there adverts and now there programmers are solid to all chips
time to pay a grand now i have one
i have had contact from a french stbook user
so ill soon get an image
i can send a cable and sdcard to copy stuff off the book hdd you have to pc
to any book owner
you plug in the cable to the foil and your hdd and the sdcard can be used to copy over stuff
i use the falcon to copy over hdd in the books
ill do this with this stbook here now soon
make an image

i think if bradly koda {best} will help us and actually stand up as a true atari lover
in that he actually helps here

then his input would be good & great & grand &
with sources and binarys his only money now is selling stuff NOS
he orders bulk stock from the east of chips they hold and re sells them to us for $40 or more + tax vat post office charge etc
when you can order 100 from the east for about $400-$500 HK$ +post HK to uk is free under the trade agreement with china
visit ebay.hk if you can
or use a proxy if you cant

he is tighter than two coats of undercoat + rust block

time he stood up
and he forgets knowlage is and should be free to those who seek it

in the usa chip string is the usual c number
so ive not searched for it but i wont find it



i just want to add
this stbook in for repair now is one of two to be fixed up and sold on soon
if your interested
came from a dutchman Raoul

i am sure his wife would be very pleased that the USA English image is now about to be made available
as he sadly passed away who knows whats on these books hdd

ive ordered parts internal nicad bat etc
and replaced the barrier diodes with 1.5 amp types next the lcd caps and charge pump

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Re: ST-BOOK ROM dump?

Postby Guest » Sun Aug 25, 2013 2:25 am

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3-6V-LiR2032- ... 337fe70368

link for internal 3.6v lithium rechargeable battery {you just need to take the three front most screws out to let the keyboard out carefully support the keyboard
and then slide it out
beware of the riibbon cables below
if you need to you can use a thin bit of cut to size card to fix them back

for the cell let it charge for 4-6 hrs power up before using lid close sleep
to allow support for suspend to vram so the machine stores ram for instant on after power off close lid lid open cycle
mains power on charges this cell so does the main bat
software support makes sleep mode work correctly


ill post how i will mod this ones main power cell {as jpg}
its as old new
ie not been hacked apart in a daft way
my plan is to cut out the top most label region
and replace the internal cells this way
putting the label lid back with lite glue
if you have a cell not yet done this is the best way
malcolm's one had already been hacked apart {prev posts}
so the label region and dremil is the best way


above all i recommend a main bat and the psu also when on for more than 10 hrs

as i find with cf and sdcard it lasts more than 20hrs with a 2500ampr cells and you should cycle the cells

ill post jpg of this book bat pack and details of the mods ive made
keeping it as original as pos
just adding a cfcard mod and thats it
prob ill use a dual cf card and add an image of standard atari soft {NOT GAMES} on a list or menu to install to the main cf as and when {some help here would be good!}
only issue is boot recovery

its name is ser num R1241000228 was a 1MB RAM 40MB HDD machine with USA TOS

and the hdd spins up ill try to read it i hope tomorrow if i get time
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Re: ST-BOOK ROM dump?

Postby Guest » Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:39 pm

ok what i will do is move over a copy of the falcon and TT rom tool as it reads 4Mb

so if it works ill do the same with the german rom first to check before i fit this usa rom into malcolms working upgraded machine

this will atleast confirm if it will work for tos 2 on 512Mb image {someone can 'fix' it i suppose if the sources etc exist

or not

without any issues before the usa rom etc swap over

this way i can also confirm the german image

having major problems locating the software for my dual power willem clone

if the sources exist it would be good to add a byte swap check box etc to allow for the flashable image to be exported

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Re: ST-BOOK ROM dump?

Postby SteveBagley » Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:22 pm

Just a thought but its not something as simple as a loose contact on those pins on your programmer, causing them to float to logic high?

Steve

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Re: ST-BOOK ROM dump?

Postby Guest » Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:16 pm

na man im not that daft
ive had this exact issue with other versions of the willem software from the one i got with it

anyway
after stripping all the auto folders etc from the book to free ram
tos rip {crap as it wont save to the hdd in 512K blocks etc and insists on using ram }
come up with a 3 bomb stop {address error}
it does claim to save 'any tos'

so perhaps someone knows

the tos is 4Mbit and lives at the same vector as tos 2.06

tosrip did complain about the size or ram until i freed it all
i feel it will detect the start block from the version

not sure the checking ill try another tool i found

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Re: ST-BOOK ROM dump?

Postby Guest » Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:29 pm

well other tools done work either
TOSRIP - A utility for copying any version of TOS, 256k (1.x-2.x) or 512k (3.x-4.x).

so i guess it sees the starting block as tos 2 and then saves 256K and ??? becouse it will need to run the mmu's rom 2??3 top get the image
perhaps its just selecting the wrong type need to see the sources to correct it in a flash and compile
guess its long gone
i just dont have time to reinvent it and if some kind person??? and perhaps this is why we havent till now got the images on english
too hard for most to do...
or ill stick to the plan and ask a pal to read it off

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Re: ST-BOOK ROM dump?

Postby SteveBagley » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:40 am

I'll knock a TOS ripper up over my lunch break, and upload it.
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Re: ST-BOOK ROM dump?

Postby SteveBagley » Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:09 pm

Here you are, one generic(-ish) TOS ripper. I've tested this on Hatari, as well as my MegaSTE and Falcon (interestingly the MegaSTE was considerably faster than the Falcon at ripping 512k from 0xE00000 -- I guess the higher graphics res, and compact flash card/IDE really slow it down). It reads 512-byte chunks and flushes them to disk after each read so if it crashes you don't loose more than the last 512 bytes.

By default, it rips 256k from 0xE00000 and writes it to the filename given -- you can use the -s flag to set the number of 512 byte blocks to read and the -b flag to set the base address, so:

tosrip -s 1024 tos208.rip

would rip 512k, or:

tosrip -s 384 -b fc0000 tos102.rip

would rip an ST rom.

C Source code is included (it's a hack and non-optimised but it works).

Enjoy,

Steve
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Re: ST-BOOK ROM dump?

Postby Guest » Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:45 pm

ok giving it a go now

TIA,,,

super stuff ill upload the first set of files soon
just on the german one

so ill check its byteswapped or not

can you add a directive to byte swap the 512K block ready to flash???
ok so i see the easy mod you need to move left by two every second byte to the buffer
think its easy to do
anyway both the falcon and the book require a byteswaped rom

i think emulators will like non byte swapped images
but this is one for there developers and another place on the forum with a link to the image files below


OK here is a folder set i prepaired

non bytes swapped ripped images
bytes swapped ripped images
BYTESWAPED AND MODDED FOR ACSI BOOT
{external port not ide }
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fphoenix.inf.upol.cz%2F~opichals%2Flibhyp%2Fhypview.cgi%3Furl%3Datmarita.de%2Fstartseite%2Fimages%2Fchips%2FCHIPS_X.HYP%26index%3D74


to get the acsi stbook cable for 30 bucks + post etc...
http://www.best-electronics-ca.com/stacy.htm
good set of hints if you have a stuck stbook or one that wont sleep etc correctly {internal cell}

please check this set of images out
ands overwrite all others

this set it for english and german language
i would perhaps like to add other book types
now we have a working ripper
and thanks very much to steve and all for the great efforts to get these images
ATLAST !!!!! some two years !!!!


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=281148936480

ebay link to 10Xplcc 27C4002-10 they are the same size as the original 27C4096
and work just as well

trying to find decent fast 4096 chips is hard for less than £10 or more each!!!!
these ones are new old stock and cheep at less than £1.5 each
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Re: ST-BOOK ROM dump?

Postby Guest » Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:48 pm

ok STBOOK owners who want the OTP 27C4096-10 as usa english
modded for acsi auto boot enabled {can be handy if you get the cable from best as they are still available
or the german one even....

3 screws fold back the keyboard place the tool in and carefully lift out the rom
replace and place the keyboard back over close the lid and put the screws back on the base
all done


cost is £6 for the chip programmed and £2 postage {anywhere} and a plcc toll if you need one is £2
pm me if in need

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Re: ST-BOOK ROM dump?

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:13 am

here is a pic of the english german keyboards layout

lets hope malcolm can find a english layout maybe best has one kicking around

prob if i made a scan of the keyboard
this could be used to direct a stencil printer for a sheet of acitate overlay
then it could be top coated with a clear latex coating but just for the changed keys
does someone work in a place that can make this from simple scans to cad converter similar to ocr its less than A4 size and both keyboard can fit on one sheet wide
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Re: ST-BOOK ROM dump?

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:52 am

OK

ST book 2013 this one is the good old usa setup

im waiting for an internal lithium cell to arrive
changed out all the capacitors and the barrier diodes in the stbooks psu for better rated 3 amp types

the pcb photo is with the caps and diodes modded
ive done the lcd panel but not yet finished soldering all the thru plate holes on its two layers i can
top to bottom


previous battery post http://www.atari-forum.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=20710&start=50#p216745


pcb rev5 again caps + diodes changed.jpg
bat pack original.jpg
bat pack orig remove top.jpg
keep the top.jpg
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Re: ST-BOOK ROM dump?

Postby SteveBagley » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:13 am

Well that seems to have worked -- I've just booted Hatari into the US TOS 2.08 :) Although you need to configure it with 14MB of memory or it bus errors (there's some accesses to 0xD00000 during boot).

Interestingly, one Atari documentation file I've got on the ST Book lists two 256k system extension roms in the memory map (at 0xD40000 and 0xE80000) but I'm blowed if I can see what these might be connected to in the schematics (Possibly they were for the STylus's PCMCIA-esque cards?)

Steve

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Re: ST-BOOK ROM dump?

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:46 am

isnt that a ram drive it boots as P D4

do an auto install devices it should pop up

do you want me to pack up an image of its tools {default set} and upload it

this image has tools built in for various devices and extenssions like write etc..

the tools have a few tsr's and prgs etc..
E8 is upper memory
D4 is lower memory
i think E8 is a shadow ram for the apps the rom contains
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