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Re: Atari file system support for Linux ?

Postby leech » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:48 am

Whoa, major Windows failure on that one. It detected the drive as 7.31641MB. It shows up in Linux for some weird reason as 127, even though it's a 120GB drive. It's all sorts of confused.
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Re: Atari file system support for Linux ?

Postby frank71 » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:40 am

leech wrote:Whoa, major Windows failure on that one. It detected the drive as 7.31641MB. It shows up in Linux for some weird reason as 127, even though it's a 120GB drive. It's all sorts of confused.

Ya, I need to test with IDE adapters - currently I just test it with SD cards - that's what the tool was intended for, I think. But it should be possible to use it with bigger drives too.
Could you give me a little more details? :) Maybe one or two screenshots of error messages...

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Re: Atari file system support for Linux ?

Postby wongck » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:45 pm

No I have a 44 pin IDE HDD for my Falcon and had a SATA-IDE adapter to use on my PC.
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Re: Atari file system support for Linux ?

Postby leech » Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:11 pm

I just ordered one of these; https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073S ... UTF8&psc=1 much easier to plug into your computer, do what you need to do with the drive, then unplug it and put it back into the Falcon.
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Re: Atari file system support for Linux ?

Postby wongck » Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:17 am

great find.
I got several standard USB-SATA cable, for backing up and TV recording purposes. I wonder if that works with my IDE-SATA adapter.
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Re: Atari file system support for Linux ?

Postby wongck » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:58 pm

So I found my IDE-SATA adapter and placed my falcon IDE drive on to my Windoze X.

Running DrImg 0.95 under admin rights, gave the following error: Read error 87.
It does not find the falcon IDE HDD..... :?:
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Incidentally I found Ppera's original DrImg 1.35, so I test ran it. It found the falcon HDD. It seems to be able to image the HDD.
The image file written size is negative while the created file size looks correct. Reading the RAW image file give an empty image disk.
So don't really work.
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May be I should attach it to my USB-SATA adapter and push it on to my TV, and see if I can run Drimg there, after my kids are finish with the TV later.
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Re: Atari file system support for Linux ?

Postby leech » Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:59 pm

wongck wrote:May be I should attach it to my USB-SATA adapter and push it on to my TV, and see if I can run Drimg there, after my kids are finish with the TV later.

What, you don't just say "Out of the way, Pecks!"? :lol:

I managed to rip to a raw file and mount (at least the two ext2 partitions) under Debian, when I tried to use dd to write it back to the drive it just hung all night. I'll try it again after I shut my computer down to see if I can use the drimg program to write it back to the disk. Hopefully that'll make it so I can modify files on it easier with my PC and fix some things in my Falcon set up.
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Re: Atari file system support for Linux ?

Postby wongck » Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:26 pm

Well you better luck than me.
Never got an image.
may try XP compatibility later.
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Re: Atari file system support for Linux ?

Postby frank71 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:10 pm

Hi wongk,
I'm still struggling with the raw drive access on Windows - there are a bundle of use-cases leading into access errors, and the Microsoft dev. center sites does not really help. (Error 87 is my best friend - "Something went wrong in some way." - or similar)
The negative sector values in PPs version results out of the fact, that he widely uses 32bit vars (just do a 32 bit integer multiplication: 1907729 * 2048 means MB -> sector count ). That may lead into the imaging problem too. Unfortunately the sources of version 1.35 are not available.
But I'm optimistic to solve the issues bit by bit...

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Re: Atari file system support for Linux ?

Postby leech » Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:47 pm

Sadly I have not been able to write the image back out. It just seemingly hangs, left it for an hour or so, seemed only the partition table showed up.
Atari 8Bits: 800xl, 600xl, XEGS, 800, 130xe, 130xe (VBXE, U1MB, Stereo POKEY)
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Re: Atari file system support for Linux ?

Postby wongck » Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:45 pm

@frank71
No problem, take your time.
Most importantly is to have fun, even if it is not working.
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Re: Atari file system support for Linux ?

Postby frank71 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:47 am

Hi Wongck,
error 87 problem should be solved now. The root cause was: the Windows api expects sector size aligned buffers, when reading/writing to physical block devices. But contrary to common sense you need to care for that on application level - not at device driver level or at least at api level. The needed code changes were not just somewhat...

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