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Hisoft Basic 2

Postby KTH » Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:18 pm

Hi,

Does someone know where I can find a copy of Hisoft Basic 2 including a working HBASIC.TTP? The copies I found in the net do not have it.

I found this post, but the content is no longer available, unfortunately.

FatRakoon wrote:I uploaded this ...

Should be all of HBasic v2.10 without any of my own projects.

http://www.fatrakoon.co.uk/hb2.zip

Its 903K ok?


Thanks.

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Re: Hisoft Basic 2

Postby TheNameOfTheGame » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:26 pm

Try this one. Maybe it's what you're looking for.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wl54pg3o6ft4u2l/HISOFTBASIC.zip?dl=1

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Re: Hisoft Basic 2

Postby KTH » Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:09 pm

Thanks so much! In the ZIP file HBASIC.TTP is still missing but the rest of the stuff looks fully functional and I have been able to recompile some of my old code :D

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Re: Hisoft Basic 2

Postby Dal » Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:24 pm

Are you sure HBASIC.TTP isn’t just HBASIC.PRG renamed? There were a few programs on the ST that behaved as TTP if you just renamed them.
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Re: Hisoft Basic 2

Postby KTH » Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:20 pm

Thank you for the suggestion! I just tried renaming HBASIC.PRG to HBASIC.TTP but unfortunately it did not work, got the GEM app fired up anyway. Worth a try anyway!

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Re: Hisoft Basic 2

Postby itaboy » Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:49 pm

This is the full package :)
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Re: Hisoft Basic 2

Postby charles » Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:01 pm

kth there are better basics to use ,
why do you choose hisoft basic?
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Re: Hisoft Basic 2

Postby KTH » Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:35 pm

itaboy wrote:This is the full package :)


Awesome ... this package has HBASIC.TTP in there ... thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cheers:

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Re: Hisoft Basic 2

Postby KTH » Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:39 pm

charles wrote:kth there are better basics to use ,
why do you choose hisoft basic?


Agreed. I have some code I wrote in HiSoft Basic back in the 90's and I now found it and wanted to see how it worked. Choosing HiSoft Basic at that time was not an educated choice, it was simply the only basic compiler I had available :wink:

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Re: Hisoft Basic 2

Postby charles » Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:18 pm

any code geared towards the midi port?
I still write code to aid with music generation /composition
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Re: Hisoft Basic 2

Postby KTH » Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:41 pm

Sorry, nope, it is database-related.

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Re: Hisoft Basic 2

Postby charles » Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:24 pm

great
can manage all my shows!
lol
good luck with the program.
im somewhat current in basic dialect ,
feel free to write me anytime.
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Re: Hisoft Basic 2

Postby KTH » Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:24 pm

Thx!

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Re: Hisoft Basic 2

Postby gamer1867 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:11 am

Thanks for the download link and information! :D

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Re: Hisoft Basic 2

Postby thedavegray » Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:49 pm

charles wrote:kth there are better basics to use ,
why do you choose hisoft basic?


What would you say was better? I had GFA and HB2 and really preferred the development environment used by HB2, also the GEM toolbox was a great help in getting started. I could never see why people raved about GFA if I'm honest.

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Re: Hisoft Basic 2

Postby lp » Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:28 am

thedavegray wrote:What would you say was better? I had GFA and HB2 and really preferred the development environment used by HB2, also the GEM toolbox was a great help in getting started. I could never see why people raved about GFA if I'm honest.


Not sure why you are replying to a year old post. ;)

GFA supports subroutine folding, you see this on all modern source code editors now days. Instant syntax checking and a built in interpreter. Plus you get automatic code indentation. GFA is still being supported. http://gfabasic.net/

Give HB2 a try with some current MiNT setup you'll find that "development environment" doesn't work. Always crashes when you hit run. The biggest problem I had with HB2 was the editor. You can type any sort of gibberish and it don't care, only at compile time do you get a cascade of errors. Frankly HB2 felt more like 'C' than BASIC.

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Re: Hisoft Basic 2

Postby charles » Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:43 am

I just wanted to know what aspect drew him into hb2.
its easy to use but takes a lot of space once u write a whole program.
I personally feel hb2 is mid level among basics....... gfa omikron..ldw..fast basic .. these are some of my preferred basics
over hb2.
wouldnt mind finding "true basic " for the Atari or "turing basic" for the Atari and see how those compare.
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Re: Hisoft Basic 2

Postby lp » Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:53 am

https://www.truebasic.com/atari
They want $25 for the ST version. Not worth it, no compiler.

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Re: Hisoft Basic 2

Postby charles » Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:10 am

some reason my computer is crippled
that page wont show /load????...

no compiller..
wheres that hiding ,

much like fast basic
where is its compillier??? no where to be found.
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Re: Hisoft Basic 2

Postby itaboy » Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:57 am

From my experience, Hisoft Basic 2 is a professional product and is a very good product indeed. The editor is quite stable (it is the very same that is used in Lattice C and has been employed in profession environments) and the syntax is clear and well documented.
The fact that it is closer to C (with respect to the cycle: write - compile - link - test) instead of being interpreted, is not so important to me.

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Re: Hisoft Basic 2

Postby lp » Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:04 pm

itaboy wrote:From my experience, Hisoft Basic 2 is a professional product and is a very good product indeed. The editor is quite stable (it is the very same that is used in Lattice C and has been employed in profession environments) and the syntax is clear and well documented.
The fact that it is closer to C (with respect to the cycle: write - compile - link - test) instead of being interpreted, is not so important to me.


That explains a lot, so it's like Lattice C reskinned with a basic like syntax. ;)
Anyway, jokes aside if that's what people like, have at it. It's unfortunate such a GEM like app doesn't work correctly under mint. The supplied GEM toolbox and the updated one called Enchant also have issues under mint. I stopped using single tasking TOS a long time ago, it cripples my work flow, but that's me. HB2 manuals can be found at devdocs if anyone is looking for them.


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