STOT #4/1 Return To Genesis

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STOT #4/1 Return To Genesis

Postby simonsunnyboy » Sat Oct 02, 2010 11:12 am

I don't know whether we play with special rules. i guess not.

No cheating, no continues, etc as always....

First score 17400

Final Table:
1 Xerus 222800
2 Thorn 117900
3 ssb 54300
4 Ragnar 36200
5 Janina 21800
6 Ragstaff 19400
6 Bluecher 15600
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Re: STOT #4/1 Return To Genesis

Postby Xerus » Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:58 pm

20100
The scrolling is horrible on my old LCD...
Next time I will use my SC1425 ;)
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Re: STOT #4/1 Return To Genesis

Postby simonsunnyboy » Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:14 am

I can assure it is the LCD, on CRT displays the scrolling is top smooth for ST standards!
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Re: STOT #4/1 Return To Genesis

Postby ThorN » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:33 pm

Once there was a time, when everybody around had a C64, but I sold my one and bought a ST.

It was not that easy to get some new games in these days and even the games that were available were slightly different from the C64 games: There was no scrolling.

But then Steve Bak created Goldrunner and now we had a game that was superior to the C64 and we were happy and proud of our ST.

But the evil commodorians told us: It’s only vertical scrolling, your computer is not able to scroll horizontal. So Steve created Return to Genesis and everybody saw that the ST could scroll into all directions.

Many thanks to Steve and Peter Lyon for the graphics as well many thanks.

Great that finally after 3 years we now play on of Steve Baks creations.

Here my first score: 41400
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Re: STOT #4/1 Return To Genesis

Postby simonsunnyboy » Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:39 pm

Slight improvement to 19200

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Re: STOT #4/1 Return To Genesis

Postby Xerus » Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:34 pm

simonsunnyboy wrote:I can assure it is the LCD, on CRT displays the scrolling is top smooth for ST standards!

yes, I know, my old LCD is too slow for a such scrolling, 50 fps is too high.
Steve Bak was a master for his first games, the scrolling were his specialty ;)

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Re: STOT #4/1 Return To Genesis

Postby ThorN » Fri Oct 08, 2010 6:40 pm

69100 , will try later after the football game to reach more

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Re: STOT #4/1 Return To Genesis

Postby ThorN » Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:41 pm

71300 not a big increase

Here some tipps:
- Press Help to select a scientist you collected. You get some extra weapons. I read in the web, that there is more speed, flying through walls and more shoots. So far I only discovered the more shoots, but I will try out more
- Use the walls. The enemies aren't able to shoot through them, so use them to protect you.
- The idea of the game is to learn the route to collect all scientists in a level, so at the end of a level try to finish it fast, that prevents from loosing lives because of beeing unconcentrated

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Re: STOT #4/1 Return To Genesis

Postby Xerus » Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:26 pm

88100
Your turn Thorn ;)
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Re: STOT #4/1 Return To Genesis

Postby nativ » Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:31 pm

Is this one Falcon fixed?

I have the Power pack disk I guess I ought to check out that!

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Re: STOT #4/1 Return To Genesis

Postby Xerus » Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:52 am

Yes it's the version of Dbug but the patch is not perfect, the score crash the game after the save and the explosions of ennemies doesn't work.
But I said it to CJ and GGN, so patience ;)

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Re: STOT #4/1 Return To Genesis

Postby Bluecher » Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:53 pm

Okay, now I spent half the weekend to get at least one of my STs to work ... spent another hour to get A_015.ST onto a DD disk ... and finally played Return to Genesis for the first time.

Terrible game ... :wink:

Maximum score so far: 1600 :(

I guess I don't need to attach a screen shot for this score ...

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Re: STOT #4/1 Return To Genesis

Postby ThorN » Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:16 pm

Welcome to the STOT Bluecher. So finally you have a real ST for playing real Atari Games, thats great I think

Please don't give up with RTG, RTG is hard, but not unfair. It's a great shooter.

It's one of the games where you could see the difference between games in the 16 Bit era and today. In the 16 Bit era a game was hard and it took less than a minute, today a game is like a novel and took ages.

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Re: STOT #4/1 Return To Genesis

Postby simonsunnyboy » Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:44 pm

Which makes the old games excellent for today's use as a casual gamer ;) You just don't want to sit hours and hours in front of a game. But if you can play 10 rounds of a game within 30mins it has a good value for fun.

For my taste RTG is too hard but it is a technical amazing game on the ST :)
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Re: STOT #4/1 Return To Genesis

Postby Xerus » Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:10 pm

RTG seems very difficult for the first games.
But the game becomes softer after few games.
Why ?
Because some enemies have different behaviors and you know how to react to avoid their shots or to kill them.
And your brain learns the levels (the obstacles place) from habit, the game became easier.
So it's also a game of memory and not just a shooter.

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Re: STOT #4/1 Return To Genesis

Postby simonsunnyboy » Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:13 pm

Games which rely on knowing the map 1:1 are not always ok to play. Esp if you do not want to spend hours and hours playing it (which most of us do not)
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Re: STOT #4/1 Return To Genesis

Postby Xerus » Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:23 pm

The maps are very small, it's not long to learn the levels ;)

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Re: STOT #4/1 Return To Genesis

Postby ThorN » Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:48 pm

83900

I also have some scores from the Wiesbaden Gaming Lab Meeting yesterday:

Frank 3100
Nafcom 2900
Neewa 1400

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Re: STOT #4/1 Return To Genesis

Postby Bluecher » Sun Oct 10, 2010 7:52 pm

ThorN wrote:83900
Frank 3100
Nafcom 2900
Neewa 1400


I like these guys .. and their scores since it's more motivating trying to beat 3100 than 83000 ;-).

I'm sure RTG will not become one of my favourites since I always fail at the same points and there are no alternative approaches. How ever, now I have my MST2 working again and I'll give RTG some more tries at the end of this week - hoping to finish Level one at least.

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Edit 22:35: ok, I made it to 5000 ... still 5000+ to go to make it to the high score screen.
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Re: STOT #4/1 Return To Genesis

Postby Ragstaff » Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:13 am

Wow, the next STOT started quickly, sorry I wasn't around to vote.

Have never played RTG before, after a few goes I have 1,800 points. Picked up 2 scientists, but do I have to take them somewhere else?

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Re: STOT #4/1 Return To Genesis

Postby Xerus » Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:04 pm

You must take all scientists to complete a level.
Take the manual on Guardians of the PaST (Direct Link)
It useful to know the power of scientists and the commands of this game.

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Re: STOT #4/1 Return To Genesis

Postby simonsunnyboy » Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:05 pm

2 new scores:

SSB scored 36900 and reached Level 3(see screenshot)

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Janina wanted to try aswell and made 3900 at her best run ;)
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Re: STOT #4/1 Return To Genesis

Postby Ragstaff » Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:41 am

Thanks for the tip Xerus
Score is now 7300

Finding it fairly frustrating, often in a situation where an enemy shoots you before it has even appeared on screen, or where you are being tailed by an enemy and there is nothing you can do. It mirrors every move, and of course if you try to turn around to face it you can't dodge any bullets for while your ship transitions and that is when you get shot. I'll beat level 1 though, I only had 1 scientist to get

EDIT 19,400, eventually beat level 1
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Re: STOT #4/1 Return To Genesis

Postby ThorN » Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:24 am

Good score Ragstaff, level 2 is fairly easy compared to level 1

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Re: STOT #4/1 Return To Genesis

Postby simonsunnyboy » Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:55 pm

New scores inbound

ssb 54300
Janina 21800

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