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Hatari 1.9 and Minix: it just works

Postby marcello » Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:10 am

Hi
I've uploaded a disk image of the Minix OS 1.5 for the Atari ready to be used for Hatari.
http://subsole.org/minix_on_the_atari_st

Seems a bit unstable, but I think it comes from Minix iteself at it was never that stable on the 68000 due to lack of real MMU
I don't see any illegal instructions or the like from the shell where I started hatari
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Re: Hatari 1.9 and Minix: it just works

Postby tritonus » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:57 pm

Hi all,

I can confirm this, Minix is running wih Hatari 1.9 again.

By the way, someone interested in Minix 2.0.2 / 2.0.4 for Atari-ST?

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Re: Hatari 1.9 and Minix: it just works

Postby marcello » Sat Mar 05, 2016 8:40 am

tritonus wrote:Hi all,

I can confirm this, Minix is running wih Hatari 1.9 again.

By the way, someone interested in Minix 2.0.2 / 2.0.4 for Atari-ST?

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would be nice but surely a lot of work !

BTW are you aware of 1.6.25 ?
http://www.beastielabs.net/minix.html
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Re: Hatari 1.9 and Minix: it just works

Postby tritonus » Sat Mar 05, 2016 2:28 pm

would be nice but surely a lot of work !


The work is done, I've got 2.0.2/4 up and running.

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Re: Hatari 1.9 and Minix: it just works

Postby marcello » Sat Mar 05, 2016 5:01 pm

Yes if you have a disk image I would be intersted
If you habe a github link to the source would be nice to ? Did you test it on real hardware ? Does TCP / IP work ?
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Re: Hatari 1.9 and Minix: it just works

Postby tritonus » Sun Mar 06, 2016 10:39 pm

Yes, it runs on real hardware, and yes, TCP/IP is working (via rs232).
Okay. Give me some time to prepare a disk image.

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Re: Hatari 1.9 and Minix: it just works

Postby marcello » Mon Mar 07, 2016 7:01 am

ok, thx I'd be curious
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Re: Hatari 1.9 and Minix: it just works

Postby iceman » Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:57 am

tritonus wrote:Yes, it runs on real hardware, and yes, TCP/IP is working (via rs232).
Okay. Give me some time to prepare a disk image.

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Sign me up, I'm interested in trying it on my MiST.
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Re: Hatari 1.9 and Minix: it just works

Postby tritonus » Sun Mar 27, 2016 12:46 pm

A disk image is almost finished, it will be about 100MB.
How can I publish it?

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Re: Hatari 1.9 and Minix: it just works

Postby marcello » Sun Mar 27, 2016 1:06 pm

Hi Tritonus Thanks

You can put it on Dropbox, and create a shared link
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Re: Hatari 1.9 and Minix: it just works

Postby joska » Sun Mar 27, 2016 1:51 pm

tritonus wrote:A disk image is almost finished, it will be about 100MB.
How can I publish it?


I can host it at joska.atari.org if you like.
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Re: Hatari 1.9 and Minix: it just works

Postby tritonus » Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:43 pm

joska wrote:
I can host it at joska.atari.org if you like.


I think it would be nice to put it on joska.atari.org. What do I have to do?

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Re: Hatari 1.9 and Minix: it just works

Postby joska » Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:32 pm

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Re: Hatari 1.9 and Minix: it just works

Postby tritonus » Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:35 pm

A disk image with Minix 2.0.2 and 2.0.4 is on joska.atari.org:
http://joska.atari.org/minix

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Re: Hatari 1.9 and Minix: it just works

Postby rabindranath72 » Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:32 pm

Fantastic stuff! I don't have any Atari hardware to work with anymore, but I am interested in the converted sources if they are available in .tar format, as I still have an Amiga 1200+68030 adapter, and I am working on porting 1.6.25 to this platform. A further step might be to port 2.0.2/4.

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Re: Hatari 1.9 and Minix: it just works

Postby marcello » Mon Aug 15, 2016 12:40 pm

Hi Tritonus
Just boot the stuff on Hatari works great ( fortunately I speak german so I could read some of the debug messages :)
BTW how did you port thje whole sutff, did you cross compile or did everything locally ?

I also noticed that Minix is quite picky about FS errors, after a hard reset of hatari, the file system was damaged and fsck failed, leaving me with an error ( cann handle V2 file systems and an unbootable system) Have you seen such a problem ?
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Re: Hatari 1.9 and Minix: it just works

Postby jotego » Wed Sep 28, 2016 2:24 pm

tritonus wrote:A disk image with Minix 2.0.2 and 2.0.4 is on joska.atari.org:
http://joska.atari.org/minix

- tritonus


Thank you!

Having these images ready to use are a great help to newcomers like me!
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Re: Hatari 1.9 and Minix: it just works

Postby mikesmith » Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:13 am

I've pinged Volker directly as well, but if anyone has managed to extract the sources from the 2.0.4 image and has a tarball available, I'd be very interested in getting my hands on it.

Or, if you've worked out how to get the files out of Hatari, that'd do too. The 2.0.4 image won't boot for me, and the toswrite command in 2.0.2 just corrupts the filesystem...

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Re: Hatari 1.9 and Minix: it just works

Postby mikesmith » Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:24 am

Success... Hatari's printer port emulation works with Minix 2.0.2 and I was able to extract the source trees that way.

If there's a good place to host these archives, please let me know. It'd be a shame to waste Volker's hard work.

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Re: Hatari 1.9 and Minix: it just works

Postby marcello » Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:01 pm

mikesmith wrote:Success... Hatari's printer port emulation works with Minix 2.0.2 and I was able to extract the source trees that way.

If there's a good place to host these archives, please let me know. It'd be a shame to waste Volker's hard work.


Yes let's keep this online !
I would suggest to open an account on github / bitbucket or gitlab and put the sources here.
I've put Minix 1.5 sources here https://github.com/EmmanuelKasper/minix-st-1.5
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Re: Hatari 1.9 and Minix: it just works

Postby mikesmith » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:25 pm

Would Joska be interesting in hosting these alongside the original disk image download?

The tree is a bit challenging to work with; Volker did an amazing job to make it build with several different toolchains. I don't know if hans@beastielabs would be interested in cleaning it up for cross-compilation as he did with 1.6.25. I'm doing something similar to it, but also removing all of the machine-dependent code so that it's easier to port to new hardware.

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Re: Hatari 1.9 and Minix: it just works

Postby marcello » Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:26 am

hej mike, can you share Volkers' source tree on something like https://send.firefox.com/ ?
Minix 2 is BSD licensed, so sharing is not a problem :)

also how did you extract it via parallel port emulation in Hatari ? very curious !
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Re: Hatari 1.9 and Minix: it just works

Postby mikesmith » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:47 am

Hatari can log printer output to a file, and it closes and opens the file when you disable and re-enable printer logging. So create the logging file, enable logging, then under Minix, use tar to write to the printer device:

# cd /usr
# tar cf /dev/lp include src

Once that completes, bring up the Hatari preferences, turn off logging, and rename the logfile to <whatever>.tar. Rinse and repeat.

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Re: Hatari 1.9 and Minix: it just works

Postby joska » Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:36 am

mikesmith wrote:Would Joska be interesting in hosting these alongside the original disk image download?


I sure am :) PM me.
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Re: Hatari 1.9 and Minix: it just works

Postby marcello » Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:37 pm

mikesmith wrote:Hatari can log printer output to a file, and it closes and opens the file when you disable and re-enable printer logging. So create the logging file, enable logging, then under Minix, use tar to write to the printer device:

# cd /usr
# tar cf /dev/lp include src

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