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Wiki *was* set to Read Only... now back to normal

Postby Dal » Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:29 am

All,

The wiki is up and running however there's some data missing. Silver messaged me earlier and it turns out that this is because the Wiki was moved in 2009 due to some technical problems with the number of sessions 250host allowed to SQL on the same domain.

The last Up-to-date wiki is stuck in the 'cloud' somewhere until such a time someone purchases 250host. At that point we can get at the data again. This also explains why I couldn't find it in the backup!

Soooo - the Wiki database that is currently online is essentially a backup that Silver left on the server back in 2009 when he migrated the Wiki over to the other 250host account he had.

In light of this, I have modified the configuration so that no edits (including article creations) can be made by anyone for the time being.
Sorry for any inconvenience this may cause.
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Re: Wiki currently set to Read Only...

Postby simonsunnyboy » Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:14 pm

It's better than having no Wiki at all! Good job for bringing online what is still there!

*thumps up*
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Re: Wiki currently set to Read Only...

Postby Dal » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:54 am

It's looking like we're in for a long wait for the Wiki...

Brian has not found a buyer for his business and has failed to sell it on ebay (see here)

It's taken quite a long time to get nowhere and I'm now very glad I decided not to wait to get the forum back!!

So, I think we're going to need to suffer some pain, make the Wiki live again and see if we can collectively fix it back up again...

Agreed?
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Re: Wiki currently set to Read Only...

Postby Mug UK » Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:39 pm

Suits me .. got a few days off planned for next week so will use the time off to help with the Wiki whilst making images of some C64 disks via a Windows 98 laptop :)
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Re: Wiki currently set to Read Only...

Postby wongck » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:41 pm

hmmm.... USD 2 grand to get the domain name plus the bad publicity and mud associate with it.
Probably not worth the effort by anyone.
Irony is that previously on webhosting forum, there were several interested people.... guess they wanted it for free. :roll:
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Re: Wiki currently set to Read Only...

Postby alexh » Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:04 pm

The images on the Wiki seem to be missing.

Any chance we can get back the Atari STE 2.06 TOS ROM upgrade jumper pictures?

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Re: Wiki currently set to Read Only...

Postby Dal » Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:47 pm

Unless you have $2k kicking around doing nothing, I fear not...
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Re: Wiki currently set to Read Only...

Postby alexh » Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:25 am

If I can get them back (from Greenious) Can we now host them on the wiki?

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Re: Wiki currently set to Read Only...

Postby Dal » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:04 am

Yes no problem. I'll unlock the Wiki later on today...
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Re: Wiki currently set to Read Only...

Postby Dal » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:52 pm

Wiki has now been unlocked. Let me know if you need anything else... :)
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Re: Wiki currently set to Read Only...

Postby wongck » Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:29 am

Dal wrote:Wiki has now been unlocked. Let me know if you need anything else... :)


Yeah, how about changing the subject title.... :cheers: :angel: :mrgreen:
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Re: Wiki currently set to Read Only...

Postby Dal » Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:28 am

wongck wrote:
Dal wrote:Wiki has now been unlocked. Let me know if you need anything else... :)


Yeah, how about changing the subject title.... :cheers: :angel: :mrgreen:


Can be done, just click the 'move' tab on any article.

When I tested it just now, there was a fault, but I've fixed that in the database now, should be fine. There may be some bugs due to the version of the MediaWiki database being older than the web application. Please report any errors to me if you spot any.

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Re: Wiki *was* set to Read Only... now back to normal

Postby Mug UK » Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:33 am

Subject header changed :)
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Re: Wiki *was* set to Read Only... now back to normal

Postby Dal » Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:47 am

:oops: oh, the subject to this thread... :oops: thought you meant how to change the subject of a Wiki Article :oops:

:megaphone: Cheers Mug :cheers:
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Re: Wiki *was* set to Read Only... now back to normal

Postby wongck » Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:43 am

Mug UK wrote:Subject header changed :)


yeap... that's what I mean... sorry my English is not so good. Hard to understand. :angel:
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Re: Wiki *was* set to Read Only... now back to normal

Postby Mug UK » Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:25 pm

No probs :)
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Re: Wiki *was* set to Read Only... now back to normal

Postby Ragstaff » Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:40 pm

I'm just back from a long time away from atari-forum and the wiki, noticed all the images gone! Thought I'd search the forums for an explanation before asking anyone about it... so this is the explanation! Bummer. Companies should never hodl users data to ransom like this :(
I can't even remember all of the images I uploaded that are gone now.

On another topic, I have a different username on the wiki to here. My uname there is Tompee ... could anyone do a password reset for me? OR is the wiki now using the same credentials database as the forum? (ir "tompee" is gone!)

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Re: Wiki *was* set to Read Only... now back to normal

Postby Mug UK » Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:46 pm

It should now be using the same credentials as you have on here Ragstaff.
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Re: Wiki *was* set to Read Only... now back to normal

Postby Ragstaff » Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:54 pm

Ok, cheers!

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Re: Wiki *was* set to Read Only... now back to normal

Postby Dal » Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:57 pm

Silver Surfer managed to get the wiki back from 250host and it has been uploaded to the backend. In the meantime a lot of work has been done to bring the current wiki up to scratch. I'm not too well ATM but once I'm back to normal, I'll set up the one SS uploaded as read only so that we can pull the articles of interest out and commit them to the current wiki.
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Re: Wiki *was* set to Read Only... now back to normal

Postby Ragstaff » Sun Aug 21, 2011 2:54 pm

I can see a lot of work has gone into the wiki since I last was around, yes. Nice going everyone.

When I used to revert and ban spammers I was checking the wiki quite regularly and there wasn't much activity then (through 2009), so hopefully there have not been too many new articles or edits of value... because it will be a real pain to find them and merge them.
It would be good to get all the pictures back though. Not sure how we'd go about that aside from the bruteforce, "check-every-article" method!

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Re: Wiki *was* set to Read Only... now back to normal

Postby wongck » Sun Aug 21, 2011 3:00 pm

Ragstaff wrote:It would be good to get all the pictures back though. Not sure how we'd go about that aside from the bruteforce, "check-every-article" method!


You do not have to, just go over to the special page, gallery of new files wiki/index.php?title=Special:NewFiles and you can see all the pictures in the system, if you go back enough.
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Re: Wiki *was* set to Read Only... now back to normal

Postby wongck » Sun Aug 21, 2011 3:14 pm

Ragstaff wrote:When I used to revert and ban spammers I was checking the wiki quite regularly and there wasn't much activity then (through 2009), so hopefully there have not been too many new articles or edits of value... because it will be a real pain to find them and merge them.


The last edit was 29 May 2009... so everything after 29 May 2009 and 3 April 2011, the day Dal got the wiki back, was lost in the sudden shutdown.
I guess the wiki database available from the backup but images are I think on the file system, so they were not included in the db backup. :roll:

If you have some wiki pages and pictures, I can help put/merge them in. The wiki structure have change a fair bit and I hope it looks OK.
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Re: Wiki *was* set to Read Only... now back to normal

Postby wongck » Sun Aug 21, 2011 3:21 pm

Dal wrote:Silver Surfer managed to get the wiki back from 250host and it has been uploaded to the backend. In the meantime a lot of work has been done to bring the current wiki up to scratch. I'm not too well ATM but once I'm back to normal, I'll set up the one SS uploaded as read only so that we can pull the articles of interest out and commit them to the current wiki.


We can systematically do this by
1. marking the pages that are in SS version with the current wiki.
2. after a review, we delete those marked pages.
3. merge the remaining pages.

There are only 838 articles in the current wiki, if one check 10 pages a day, that takes 3 months. If 2-3 person work on, it will take 1 month. :wink:
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Re: Wiki *was* set to Read Only... now back to normal

Postby Ragstaff » Sun Aug 21, 2011 3:31 pm

I can see you have done a lot of work, wongck. The wiki is looking very nice.

I see what you mean about the "newfile" special page, that's one way we could see what images need to be taken from the old wiki.

Re: the losses after 2009, ahh, that sucks :( I couldn't remember when I was last active here and I assumed it was May 2009 by looking at my contributions page, but now I see my edits probably stop in May 2009 because that's where we lost the wiki! Oh well....


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