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Internet troubles caused by recent terrorist attacks

Postby AtariZoll » Wed Mar 23, 2016 10:39 am

I noticed soon after last year Paris terrorist attacks that sending e-mails on certain servers, services got very slow - you need to wait 30-50 secs even in case of shortest e-mail. Slowdown was visible in some forums too. So, we may conclude that there is now much stronger and detailed control of Internet traffic. What is not problem for me, except slowness, of course.
Yesterday (22.03.2016) afternoon half Internet was practically dead. Lot of sites just not accessible, + diverse errors, slowdowns.
And some of terrorists went to Belgium thru Hungary as refugees last year. I think that sooner or later EU will do same as US - total border stop for all people without proper documents + checking everyone on top of it very detailed. There is no other way.
Famous Schrodinger's cat hypothetical experiment says that cat is dead or alive until we open box and see condition of poor animal, which deserved better logic. Cat is always in some certain state - regardless from is observer able or not to see what the state is.

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Re: Internet troubles caused by recent terrorist attacks

Postby mjvans » Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:03 pm

Didn't notice anything of slow internet here in NL but also watched more tv than internet.
The good news is I got my CosmosEx today! It was here yesterday already, but I missed the postman. That was very fast as I got message it was sent saturday.
Total border control comes with traffic jams. I'm afraid it will be a choice between economy and security.

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Re: Internet troubles caused by recent terrorist attacks

Postby Zarchos » Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:17 pm

AtariZoll wrote:I noticed soon after last year Paris terrorist attacks that sending e-mails on certain servers, services got very slow - you need to wait 30-50 secs even in case of shortest e-mail. Slowdown was visible in some forums too. So, we may conclude that there is now much stronger and detailed control of Internet traffic. What is not problem for me, except slowness, of course.
Yesterday (22.03.2016) afternoon half Internet was practically dead. Lot of sites just not accessible, + diverse errors, slowdowns.
And some of terrorists went to Belgium thru Hungary as refugees last year. I think that sooner or later EU will do same as US - total border stop for all people without proper documents + checking everyone on top of it very detailed. There is no other way.



There is 'no other way' if all other parameters stay equal.
Now we could also change our Foreign policies.
If sbdy could remind me exactly what we've been to Irak for, and to Libya for, I'm sure we could all start a very interesting debate.
But it's an Atari forum, so let's stay with simplistic solutions ...
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Re: Internet troubles caused by recent terrorist attacks

Postby AtariZoll » Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:30 am

[quote="mjvans"...
Total border control comes with traffic jams. I'm afraid it will be a choice between economy and security.[/quote]
I meant total control on EU border. As may see, it has weak parts currently - like Greece, but Balkan route is now pretty much under control, and non-EU country Macedonia got big help in it. Economy already has big damage - millions of refugees and immigrants cost billions.

And yes, we can think a lot about causes of this situation. It seems that Arabian Spring was just result of huge, secret activities in goal to remove leaders, regimes in certain countries, and to "export" there western democracy , or rather some interests. And that failed miserably - what is now is much worse than couple dictators. But some can make lot of money in all this :(
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Re: Internet troubles caused by recent terrorist attacks

Postby felicemaggie » Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:08 am

The main reason why Iraq was invaded was largely on a thought which George W Bush at the time had; convincing himself that Saddam had been involved with personally funding (or funding via his government) the events of 9/11.

History has proven that Saddam played no part whatsoever to do with the events of that day. He confirmed himself, while he was a prisoner after being captured - that this was the case and unfortunately, he wasn't around to be vindicated on this. Even though Saddam admitted to having met Bin Laden back in the early nineties, he wasn't involved in any further liaisons with him as Saddam himself didn't trust Bin Laden.

With regards to the EU and the border control issues, the problems appear largely to have come from the southern countries within the EU, where corruption is particularly widespread. Greece is one country where they still do not care about security; even to this day. Whilst Spain and Italy aren't quite as bad there are issues which need looking at in both countries.

Greece, in particular, hid their debts from Germany when they joined the EU and unfortunately, as a result, the contagion spread to affect the euro. This is not to say the euro is a bad project - it is a very brave project which I hope will start to succeed again in time and be able to put the worst (last) few years behind it once and for all.

While I am of the impression that we will see Greece kicked out of the EU largely as a result of the migrant crisis situation which has developed in the last year, I do hope that my scene friends based there, along with other Greek people but not those involved in government can escape if this happens.
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Re: Internet troubles caused by recent terrorist attacks

Postby Zarchos » Thu Mar 24, 2016 11:05 am

I've got many different thoughts but as I said it's an Atari forum so I shall refrain from posting them here.
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Re: Internet troubles caused by recent terrorist attacks

Postby Maartau » Sun Mar 27, 2016 3:28 pm

Zarchos wrote:I've got many different thoughts but as I said it's an Atari forum so I shall refrain from posting them here.


"Au pays de FLAMBY" aka "Ze France" , all is fine : we have a so cooool president :mrgreen: .

Edit : :oops: ... Added a part of the government :angel: !
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Re: Internet troubles caused by recent terrorist attacks

Postby Maartau » Sun Mar 27, 2016 6:48 pm

Before his new life, Mr President was always smiling ...
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Here's why ...
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Re: Internet troubles caused by recent terrorist attacks

Postby Maartau » Sun Mar 27, 2016 6:49 pm

And our new President will be...
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Yes, all is really cooool in Ze France [smilie=greencolorz4_pdt_15.gif] !
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Re: Internet troubles caused by recent terrorist attacks

Postby calimero » Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:21 am

Zarchos wrote:If sbdy could remind me exactly what we've been to Irak for, and to Libya for, I'm sure we could all start a very interesting debate.
But it's an Atari forum, so let's stay with simplistic solutions ...

let me explain what 'you' were doing in Irak, Libya...

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Re: Internet troubles caused by recent terrorist attacks

Postby Zarchos » Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:34 am

calimero wrote:
Zarchos wrote:If sbdy could remind me exactly what we've been to Irak for, and to Libya for, I'm sure we could all start a very interesting debate.
But it's an Atari forum, so let's stay with simplistic solutions ...

let me explain what 'you' were doing in Irak, Libya...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP7L8bw5QF4


I haven't watched your vid and I won't because I perfectly well know why, but I think here it's an Atari forum and I fear politics will spoil the overall good vibes there are here.
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Re: Internet troubles caused by recent terrorist attacks

Postby Ragstaff » Mon Mar 28, 2016 2:07 pm

Zarchos wrote:
calimero wrote:let me explain what 'you' were doing in Irak, Libya...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP7L8bw5QF4


I haven't watched your vid and I won't because I perfectly well know why, but I think here it's an Atari forum and I fear politics will spoil the overall good vibes there are here.

I think there are only a few argumentative people here on atari-forum, and they will find ways to get offended or combative occasionally regardless of the topic ;-) (EDIT and that doesn't make them bad people or bad members necessarily!)
Don't get me wrong, I have no need to discuss politics on this forum, there are many other places to do it, but that is my theory if it happens here... it shouldn't make much difference to the vibe if it gets the same moderation as any other thread. However I could be wrong!

FYI the quoted video is about US dollar being tied to oil trade, recent wars due to threats to that control. Is that what you were expecting? :-p

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Re: Internet troubles caused by recent terrorist attacks

Postby Maartau » Mon Mar 28, 2016 2:22 pm

Hi everyone,

I precise I posted those pics as joke about France, in my opinion "world" is in a bad state : the "only quiet place" we have is there, the Forum.

What I think about politics : all is about money & power :shrug: ... At my level I can't change things !

On another level for sure I keep in mind "Stay aTaRi"... and that's precisely why I enjoy the Forum :D .

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Re: Internet troubles caused by recent terrorist attacks

Postby dlfrsilver » Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:03 am

Maartau wrote:Hi everyone,

I precise I posted those pics as joke about France, in my opinion "world" is in a bad state : the "only quiet place" we have is there, the Forum.

What I think about politics : all is about money & power :shrug: ... At my level I can't change things !

On another level for sure I keep in mind "Stay aTaRi"... and that's precisely why I enjoy the Forum :D .

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Well, indeed, it's all about money, power, geopolitical interests. Problem : instead of being the ones benefiting from those, we are the victims as people...... And i'm not talking specifically about France, it's the case in most other countries.
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Re: Internet troubles caused by recent terrorist attacks

Postby Zarchos » Wed Mar 30, 2016 4:41 pm

Ragstaff wrote:FYI the quoted video is about US dollar being tied to oil trade, recent wars due to threats to that control. Is that what you were expecting? :-p


Yes but it's very incomplete, then. I'm glad I haven't watched it.
All the infos are available today :megaphone: from many different sources including from governants' and 'big' entities / think tanks etc :coffe: ... so it's not difficult to know or be aware ;-) as Jean-claude would say.

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Re: Internet troubles caused by recent terrorist attacks

Postby calimero » Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:28 pm

Zarchos wrote:
Ragstaff wrote:FYI the quoted video is about US dollar being tied to oil trade, recent wars due to threats to that control. Is that what you were expecting? :-p


Yes but it's very incomplete, then. I'm glad I haven't watched it.

what is missing than?
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Re: Internet troubles caused by recent terrorist attacks

Postby Zarchos » Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:59 pm

calimero wrote:
Zarchos wrote:
Ragstaff wrote:FYI the quoted video is about US dollar being tied to oil trade, recent wars due to threats to that control. Is that what you were expecting? :-p


Yes but it's very incomplete, then. I'm glad I haven't watched it.

what is missing than?


What I listed. It's everywhere. No need for me to guide you.
No you won't trap me :wink: but nice try.
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Re: Internet troubles caused by recent terrorist attacks

Postby calimero » Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:48 pm

Trap you? It was joke: "let me explain what 'you' were doing in Irak, Libya... " !!

please do not get offended, I am not saying that Amiga is better than Archimedes :P (joke)
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Re: Internet troubles caused by recent terrorist attacks

Postby Zarchos » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:21 pm

calimero wrote:Trap you? It was joke: "let me explain what 'you' were doing in Irak, Libya... " !!

please do not get offended, I am not saying that Amiga is better than Archimedes :P (joke)



I'm not offended. Noticed the :wink: smiley ?
I know most of the truth in both cases :cheers: Acorn RuLeZ !!
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Re: Internet troubles caused by recent terrorist attacks

Postby Maartau » Thu Mar 31, 2016 1:58 pm

calimero wrote:Amiga is better than Archimedes :P (joke)

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Zarchos wrote:Acorn RuLeZ !!

We all knows the world is under control by the "illuminati" :wink: .

There's a conspiracy, the "illuminati" haven't succeed with aTaRi but on others companies like Commodore & co [smilie=greencolorz4_pdt_16.gif] .

Beware "Big Brother" is watching us too :lol: !


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