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Does the forum need a FAQ???

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Re: POLL: Does the forum need a FAQ?

Postby lp » Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:05 pm

bid wrote:...and the Atari Compendium http://www.fortunecity.com/skyscraper/apple/308/html/toc.htm . Now the Atari Compendium is prime as this is hosted on "Fortune City"... How long until this is lost to the world!!?? 8O


Doesn't matter. Its just a copy of the CD version of the book someone uploaded. I have the CD as does many I'm sure, so it won't ever be lost.

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Re: POLL: Does the forum need a FAQ?

Postby Foxxy74 » Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:19 pm

I voted NO , just because my mom always tells me to vote, otherwise you're not worthy of your freedom :megaphone: :angel: .

However, since this Forum is running for over 10 years ? It sometimes takes long to find what you're looking for ..

Well, no problems with that anyways, because along the search you read mostly a few other interesting topics .. :contract:

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Re: POLL: Does the forum need a FAQ?

Postby wongck » Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:57 am

bid wrote:I do like the way that the "Atari St Quick FAQ" is structured, and I stand by that. Also there are great docs like the TOS2,06 Users Guide http://jensriemann.macdisk.de/html/guide206/index.htm and the Atari Compendium http://www.fortunecity.com/skyscraper/apple/308/html/toc.htm . Now the Atari Compendium is prime as this is hosted on "Fortune City"... How long until this is lost to the world!!?? 8O


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Re: POLL: Does the forum need a FAQ?

Postby wongck » Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:01 am

bid wrote:By the way. With permission from website owners, can I recommend HTrack http://www.httrack.com/ :D


does it work?
I tried that before but it just didn't do as advertise.
Well, I am but an end-user of course, so enough said.
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Re: POLL: Does the forum need a FAQ?

Postby Shredder11 » Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:45 pm

I tried it yesterday evening on a lengthy blog site for the Atari ST and it worked perfectly. I used the default settings too which is something I rarely do with any software. Normally I use Adobe Acrobat to capture entire websites but this is far from perfect sometimes.

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Re: POLL: Does the forum need a FAQ?

Postby bid » Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:17 pm

wongck wrote:
bid wrote:By the way. With permission from website owners, can I recommend HTrack http://www.httrack.com/ :D

does it work?
I tried that before but it just didn't do as advertise.
Well, I am but an end-user of course, so enough said.


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Re: POLL: Does the forum need a FAQ?

Postby bid » Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:21 pm

Anyway. Looks like this question isnt going to be resolved soon!
But,
1. The wiki is not clearly signposted or SEO'd so not easy to find
2. The cover page needs a reformat and re-catagoratisation - ala the ST Quick FAQ
3. Perhaps dates and links to useful external websites
4. Gradually bring sites and info into wiki. Perhaps using http://www.httrack.com/ or manually, if you prefer. Asking permission
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Re: POLL: Does the forum need a FAQ?

Postby wongck » Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:49 pm

bid wrote:
wongck wrote:
bid wrote:By the way. With permission from website owners, can I recommend HTrack http://www.httrack.com/ :D

does it work?
I tried that before but it just didn't do as advertise.
Well, I am but an end-user of course, so enough said.


Of course it works!! :evil: This is why i posted it :lol: Its dead dead simple, very fast, and puts it all into C:/My_Web_Sites and best of all ... it retains all the internal links, so you can rehost with it all intact. Check out my new website for example http://thebigconsultant.com/probe/ :lol: Just tell me if you want me to remove! lol


does it work behind a proxy?
I was trying it at work.
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It seems to work at home.
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Re: POLL: Does the forum need a FAQ?

Postby wongck » Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:56 pm

bid wrote:1. The wiki is not clearly signposted or SEO'd so not easy to find
2. The cover page needs a reformat and re-catagoratisation - ala the ST Quick FAQ
3. Perhaps dates and links to useful external websites
4. Gradually bring sites and info into wiki. Perhaps using http://www.httrack.com/ or manually, if you prefer. Asking permission
5. Profit


Right that the Wiki links has no big banners to it, but if one reads it is easily found.
Well I found it without much issue.... problem is that no one really look hard enough for it.
Or they do not look hard enough for it because it is easier just to open their mouth and ask.
Look around at the postings, you seen it easily like asking for <removed - may lead to flame war>

On the cover page.... I like it the way it is because I cannot take long blogs like postings.
Point form works for me best.... look at my web page - mostly numbered and point form.
No long blog like postings.
Even my entries into the Wiki are few sentences and then goes to point form.

Just links to the websites, don't bring in contents.
Contents changes, and who is updating the wiki again?
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Re: POLL: Does the forum need a FAQ?

Postby flammableBen » Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:36 am

I've been lurking and popping up now and again for ages, I sort of knew there was a wiki, but from what I read on here I couldn't tell you where it is or if it covers something I might like to ask. It probably wouldn't be the first place I'd try and look.

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Re: POLL: Does the forum need a FAQ?

Postby wongck » Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:01 am

flammableBen wrote:I've been lurking and popping up now and again for ages, I sort of knew there was a wiki, but from what I read on here I couldn't tell you where it is or if it covers something I might like to ask. It probably wouldn't be the first place I'd try and look.


Yeap, like I said, there are no big banners to it.
We really need to add some eye-catching jump up and slap you on the face banners to the Wiki site.
Guess something the admins will have to look into doing.

BTW, look at the very first page for the sentence "Check out the Atari Forum Wiki" :wink:
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Re: POLL: Does the forum need a FAQ?

Postby bid » Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:02 am

Right that the Wiki links has no big banners to it, but if one reads it is easily found.


So how do i get to the Wiki from this page? I see no link? How do I find it?? Please can you explain?

Well I found it without much issue.... problem is that no one really look hard enough for it.


So I just clicked on the FAQ button on the top right hand size of this webpage, on FAQ.... and guess what. 404 error. So I am looking hard for it. How do I get there? I am pretty proficient at using the net, but I really cant find the link or any links or pointers of any kind.

Or they do not look hard enough for it because it is easier just to open their mouth and ask.


Speak for yourself. I always undertake an extensive search before asking questions. And never have i found the wiki. By the way, the forum is to ask questions. That is what a Forum is for. People talk and ask questions? The FAQ and Wiki should be easy to find to answer to quick or obvious or often asked questions. I have thought to ask many times how to find the Wiki or FAQ. Where is it?

Look around at the postings, you seen it easily like asking for <removed - may lead to flame war


Im looking around the postings right now. And I am not seeing anybody at the moment, referring people to the wiki, or faq for information, including yourself. No one is going to mind having there info put onto the wiki. And I dont imagine a flame war, unless people just keep posting irrelevant comments just for the sake of it. So if no one even points refers to the wiki in the Forum, then there is something seriously wrong? I'd like to write some guides, and I cant even find a link to it at all! Do I have to know of it and type it in manually? Is it even submitted to Google?

On the cover page.... I like it the way it is because I cannot take long blogs like postings.


I'd like to look at the cover page. But there appears to be no browseable way to get to it. I did find it once.. more by accident. And I have made a concerted effort today to browse away from the site and search in Google specifically for "Atari Forum Wiki". Its the only way I could find it. Clearly if I had not come across this thread (we are writing on now) and found out there was in fact a Wiki (to my surprise), then I would have no idea of its existence and therefore the chances of me searching for it are guess what. Nill.

So you cant take long blogs like postings? Have you even looked at the Atari ST Quick FAQ?? http://www.atari.org/hosted/quickfaq/

I have mentioned this several times. And your response is, I cannot take long blog like postings. Have you even read my link before posting your response?

There are 4, yes four postings. 1. General Information 2. Software 3. Hardware 4. Communication

Then you click on one. It then lists sub categories on a separate page. Its a wonderful invention by a guy called Tim Berners-Lee called the internet. For example section 1 General Information tells us simple information about the ST for example, and has "relevant information" stored in this page
- (not a non-alphabetic mish mash of Links at the bottom of the page, I mean what is "Atari System Disks Archive 1" http://www.vintagecomputercafe.com/atarisystemdisks.htm .. Its not in order, it doesnt even work, and how can all the useful links be on one front page. How on earth do you find one you want.

Sureley by having articles structured in a simple, powerful and effective way is a better way to find and digest information? I mean what on earth is the point of these unsorted links at the bottom. And to be honest, if this was a complete wiki... which it is not, then there would be no room to list every subject on the front page like this. But thats not the worst thing about it (forgetting that no one can find it, or bothers to use or mention it on the forum in answers).

Point form works for me best.... look at my web page - mostly numbered and point form.
No long blog like postings.


The worst thing about this website is the absolutely nonsencial order. Please don't take offence, but your website, even though it is linked to in at least two major articles on the Wiki covering Mint, and on the front page, but probably more, is not a tome of how to write a website. I have website too, www.thebigconsultant.com , also I dont really know what "pint form" is, but for example:-

1. Under "Getting Started" on our Wiki, we have the ludicrous entry "MINT Operating System" entry. I mean, is using MINT really 'getting started'?? For example, I just met a guy who used Atari for 20 years on the forum, and has TT, Hades and the lot. Yet he is only starting to understand how to even install this. Never mind use the features.
- But when you open the section up, not only is the Easy Mint not mentioned, but there are no hyperlinks to any useful information for people, oh, apart from your website. Which co-incidentally I managed to copy quite easily with HTRACK website copier.

I mean. Another point where I get lost with your argument here. You were argueing that all the info should be on the Wiki in one of your statements. But then why link to a webpage you have clearly written on the subject, and then put it in the Wiki?? Surely it is harder to FTP upload and write HTML than to use the Wiki direct to host this information. I am confused?

2. BUT then, what about the REAL Operating System? Quite important no? Wait. Can I find anything about how to use TOS or GEM? Yes I just got 2.06 and also I am wondering how to use "Install Application" in the Options menu and also set up some useful icons (just like the Atari TOS 2.06 User Guide http://jensriemann.macdisk.de/html/guide206/index.htm ). But.. where is this info??
- Oooph under "Hardware" ????? 8O
- Its listed as "The Operating System of the Atari ST" and half way down the page in the wrong section, but luckily I have found it!! Yay :cheers: Luck me. Hope its useful?

... I open it up and what do I find??? Obscure information about "Line A Routines"... what? Who is this useful to? http://www.atari-forum.com/wiki/index.php?title=The_Operating_System_of_the_Atari_ST . So yes this may be useful to 1 in a hundred. Perhaps this should be in part of a section on the OS? This article may be well written, but there are thousands like this, all over the internet. And yet there is no info that we can usefully use here? (Thats why working out a contents would be best, and do that together, collaboratively).

Lets take a snippet eh?
Now we come to the complex stuff. GEM, the Graphics Environment Manager, is a machine independent (runs on the IBM too) set of routines that enable the programmer to use windows, dialogs, the mouse, buttons, and sliders to interface with an end user. GEM also allows you to present complex graphics and output them to a number of different devices. It is built so that these features can be defined, accessed, and used with a relatively small number of routines. It also allows limited multitasking through desk accessories. In addition to all that, GEM allows inter-process communication and control. I said it was complex!

Jesus!

Even my entries into the Wiki are few sentences and then goes to point form.


Please feel free to indicate where this point form is and how it works? I am not really sure what point form is? Do you mean bullet points? I am lost here?

Just links to the websites, don't bring in contents.


Er. Where is there any up to date information for useful websites to go to?? I keep finding out new things, mainly off the forum, and members seem to have lots of interesting links, that each other do not know about.

Example. I had to browse forum to find out about a great IDE hard drive mod that is easy to make easily at home http://www.spiny.org/atari/popsel/. More interest for me, I love CAD and 3D on Atari, yet after years I have never seen this until someone pointed out last week http://www.asterius.com/atari/cybervcr.html whoa, all my 3D dreams. Now i can go do this again and render some ray tracing http://saberblock.blogspot.com/2010/12/atari-st-raytracing.html. Whoa, these images are like childhood friends to me. :D Amazing.

So none of these links are interesting or useful, or bring in contents? I would certainly ask Spiny or Antic if we can put some information or bookmarks here. I am sure not only I find things interesting, and want sometimes to find t quickly. But we cant easily replace the World Wide Web!!?? :lol: Bloody hell. So we dont bother with the web links, and we host entire worlds information in this Wiki?? Thats dedicated. Only 999,999 articles to go! Yay :angel: So better to put in relevant hyperlinks, and therefore at least hope that the article is useful, rather than completely uninformative, out of date and useless.

Contents changes, and who is updating the wiki again?


Again, that is why you have weblinks. And to useful pages, or more than one, but also in sections, that are relevant, and in sub-catagories, and that people need. Perhaps dated.

Who updates the Wiki. Very few. But could be sorted, if more people use it.
- Why dont more use it? Good question. Try reviewing my posts here before simply making posts quoting me, but appearing to have not even been bothered to make the effort to actually understand or respond to my points.
- I actually would like to help you and others, to make either the Wiki, or FAQ more popular. And if you are not prepared to listen to my points, then that is either ignorance, or more likely that you do not even think about what it is you are writing, but simply post for the sake of responding. Were there is no useful content to add.
- Well this annoys me, because I feel that it is important to make progress for example with the wiki, as this is important to all of us. Or to solve problems. If I personally cant do something, I will be the first to say, look, sorry cant help you. This is a skill. But it is wasting my time, and others if we simply post for the sake of arguing or say something that is ambiguous. I mean why did you say "Right that the Wiki links has no big banners to it, but if one reads it is easily found. " .. I mean, my point is that there appear to be no links at all to it. No it has no banners (?) and how is it easily found? Let me read that again. How do I find it by reading?? I do read and I cant find it?? Is there something wrong with me? Am I missing something??

I only found it by chance. No one mentions it, and with no SEO and links, its effectively dead. No links, no users.

Now why also are you constantly knocking me down when I try to help others?? I mean the post about HTRACK http://www.httrack.com . And you say

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bid wrote:By the way. With permission from website owners, can I recommend HTrack http://www.httrack.com/ :D

does it work?
I tried that before but it just didn't do as advertise.
Well, I am but an end-user of course, so enough said.


Its like, amazingly easy to use, and may be very very useful to others. Why put them off? It took me efort to find this and share it with others. I have used this tool for many years. What evidence do you have that it does not work? I doubt that you even downloaded it and tried it. Yet you then poo poo my idea to others, and with no direct evidence, or even a clue as to how to use it or having even tried it. You just paste in the web address and it does it. Bang. Website in your C:/My Websites, a full website, with everything CSS, the lot, internally linking, not broken, complete. One button. You know what I used to use this for?? Offline browsing websites on my Atari ST, for 10 years. Also in business, useful to extract data. But your comment may stop someone from trying my idea and the tool. When it works. Why? Can anyone else find a problem with it??? Why make this comment?? Can you explain what you found difficult or the error message?

With this tool, anyone could add fill websites and content to the wiki from any source, and perhaps not have to spend hours re-writing. A solution to your "who is updating the wiki" perhaps.
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Re: POLL: Does the forum need a FAQ?

Postby bid » Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:09 am

flammableBen wrote:I've been lurking and popping up now and again for ages, I sort of knew there was a wiki, but from what I read on here I couldn't tell you where it is or if it covers something I might like to ask. It probably wouldn't be the first place I'd try and look.


This is what I am talking about! I rest my case!

FlammableBen, can you please tell us how you got here to post this? I am guessing that you just saw the thread talking about a FAQ, and clicked in that out of curiosity?
- How do you find the wiki?
- Why would it not be the first place you would look?
- How would you suggest to improve it?
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Re: POLL: Does the forum need a FAQ?

Postby wongck » Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:43 am

bid wrote:
Or they do not look hard enough for it because it is easier just to open their mouth and ask.


Speak for yourself. I always undertake an extensive search before asking questions. And never have i found the wiki. By the way, the forum is to ask questions. That is what a Forum is for. People talk and ask questions? The FAQ and Wiki should be easy to find to answer to quick or obvious or often asked questions. I have thought to ask many times how to find the Wiki or FAQ. Where is it?


Go to http://www.atari-forum.com
On your Chrome, Press CTRL-F and key in the word "wiki" into the search bar. Press Enter. Chrome will high light all the word Wiki for you.

I am sure you can see where they are and the link as well. :mrgreen:
and no need to tell you that the url it is on the 2nd wiki word.
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Re: POLL: Does the forum need a FAQ?

Postby wongck » Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:10 am

Sorry Bid... I got lost reading the long post... normal for me... had the same issue with other long post...
Guess it's just my brain gets too filled up with English words and it starts to mess up my brain translator... something like that I guess.
or I'm just getting old.... :lol:

Never mind, from what I can see, you mean well. And of course people has their own point of view but all of us means well.

I am sure you found the url on the front page by now, the direct link to the wiki is http://www.atari-forum.com/wiki/.
:megaphone: So go update it now. :thumbs:


The same goes to those who voted yes.... go update that wiki ! :cheers:
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Re: POLL: Does the forum need a FAQ?

Postby bid » Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:37 pm

wongck wrote:Go to http://www.atari-forum.com
On your Chrome, Press CTRL-F and key in the word "wiki" into the search bar. Press Enter. Chrome will high light all the word Wiki for you.


Ok. ok. Now I have found it. But gosh, it is small!! I would really not have spotted that if you had not told me. And yes, your banner idea is a great idea! :D This is too small to see or notice. So its certainly likely that people would miss it!

wongck wrote:Sorry Bid... I got lost reading the long post... normal for me... had the same issue with other long post...
Guess it's just my brain gets too filled up with English words and it starts to mess up my brain translator... something like that I guess.
or I'm just getting old.... :lol:


Ok, I understand now. I did not realise and I would find it hard reading long posts. Now I understand this. Please do take a look at the "Atari ST Quick Faq" though, and tell me what you think? http://www.atari.org/hosted/quickfaq/ Its my 1st source always for info, I dont know about others? But this generally gives me 90% of what I need... But clearly it is out of date, and we could do better or incorporate some of this as options.. or re-host. I dunno!? :roll: Thoughts? Thank you for your explaination :)
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Re: POLL: Does the forum need a FAQ?

Postby wongck » Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:52 pm

bid wrote:Ok. ok. Now I have found it. But gosh, it is small!! I would really not have spotted that if you had not told me. And yes, your banner idea is a great idea! This is too small to see or notice. So its certainly likely that people would miss it!


Right that is small, no?
A Banner would do the trick.

bid wrote:Please do take a look at the "Atari ST Quick Faq" though, and tell me what you think? http://www.atari.org/hosted/quickfaq/ Its my 1st source always for info, I dont know about others? But this generally gives me 90% of what I need... But clearly it is out of date, and we could do better or incorporate some of this as options.. or re-host. I dunno!? Thoughts? Thank you for your explaination


That page layout will also work, but you may be limited by what the wiki editor can do.

Anyway, wiki is wide open now and anyone can fill it in as well as change it.

May be someone need to lock the 1st page and list down all the topics and sub-topics to give it the structure first.
I have seen wiki with url text that leads to empty page and begs someone to fill it in.
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Re: POLL: Does the forum need a FAQ?

Postby bid » Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:57 pm

A Banner would do the trick.


Yes it would. Who do we ask about it? Also I think this should be done after making a brief few changes (more on this later in this post)

That page layout will also work, but you may be limited by what the wiki editor can do.


You are right. So you or others or we, must decide a method that make is more useful and wiki like. Wikipedia is well hyperlinked and a good example, and also there may be others.

For a start. Please do check this link out :megaphone: http://phoenix.inf.upol.cz/~opichals/jay/

This page allows standard Atari ST-Guide Hypertext or HYP documents to be viewed in HTML online!!! 8) Really cool. So we could for example, upload or host many many HYP files and run through this system to make lots of useful documents appear and be available on our browsers and PC's. What do you think?

Anyway, wiki is wide open now and anyone can fill it in as well as change it.


We need to encourage others to do this, once we have worked out a suitable WIKI formatting. I think that if we work out a contents that is useful would be a good start. There can of course be some 'Stubs', but these are easy to fix with links and even point to forum. Also we need to encourage people in Forum Threads to point to the Wiki, or upload answers to the Wiki.

You would be a good person for this WongCK, as there are many many threads that are dormant and hard to search for with key terms. But on there is GOLD. With a bit of tweaking a full guide to building CF card to a ST using TTowners CF card thread. Or other guides people have written to setting up MIDI. Its all there.

We need to either, post on old threads and ask to put this in the Wiki. Or put this info, reformatted with answer on the thread to say. Yes this answer or guide is now compliled and in full detail here. Or ask the thread originator to put relevant info onto the wiki to help others. But we can't do this without making a suitable contects first, and I think this means making a list, and also a list of the "blanks" too. What should be in there? And what order should it be in?

May be someone need to lock the 1st page and list down all the topics and sub-topics to give it the structure first.
I have seen wiki with url text that leads to empty page and begs someone to fill it in.


Maybe? We should or could list all the Topics here and decide on them as a group. I propose Wong that you write that list or sections if you like, and then others can comment?? Yes there will definately be 'blanks'. But this is great too, as we can ask others to please contribute, and also add in just 'links' to start with, but gradually add in the data. Much can be taken from other sources anyway, but, we should also try to ask others or collaborate to see what should go on there. Only then will it be useful to say programmers, gamers or mucisians.

I would suggest the following

1. General Information 2. Hardware 3. Games4. Applications 5. Demos6. Coding 7. Magazines 8. Useful websites ... but I might be wrong

In each section, we need to decide in alphabetical order, the sections. And perhaps then in this section there are one level of sub pages. So we have 3 tiers

So like this
Top page________ (this is the main wiki with 8 sections but improved)
Sub page_________ (we move the irrelevant links from top page onto this. Also allows list of more relevant links)
Item page_________ (the actual wiki page, so a game for example or a guide)

This clean up the 1st top main page, and makes it less confusing.

Second. Once you are in the sub page or "Catagory Page" you can then more precicely find the info that you really really want

Third. We make the actual wiki page, as a stub if its not done. These can be added anytime, and encourage people to use it.

I may be wrong here. But have a think about what I have said, and perhaps you and others might want to discuss a better re-structure or just a newer and better contents page. I will also help if I can by adding some wiki pages for actual items. Do you or anyone else want to suggest a contents page layout for the main page?

This work can be easily done in parallel at first, buy keeping the entire existing wiki front page online. Just build the new front page and sections, when/if we are happy with it, we can then easily copy the article links and stubs accross. :D Then put up a new banner, and tell people about it. What do you think?
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Re: POLL: Does the forum need a FAQ?

Postby RetroGamerUK » Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:36 pm

Well I was only suggesting a small FAQ to answer those few often asked questions lol but if this leads to greater things then that's a good thing.
I agree that the "FAQ" link at the top of the page is a bit rubbish, to me it looks more like a FAQ about the forum itself rather than an Atari FAQ...
Deffo needs to be bigger, and more flashy colourful lol

I see the Wiki has no logo, I could photochop one up to the same style as the one here if it's of any help?

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Re: POLL: Does the forum need a FAQ?

Postby wongck » Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:37 pm

bid wrote:This page allows standard Atari ST-Guide Hypertext or HYP documents to be viewed in HTML online!!! Really cool. So we could for example, upload or host many many HYP files and run through this system to make lots of useful documents appear and be available on our browsers and PC's. What do you think?


Would be good if they are English version of HYP.
How is it done?
Is it an online CGI like thingy that is doing the conversion?
Or he just pre-convert them into HTML.
There is UDO that suppose to do this, but it needs the HYP source.
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Re: POLL: Does the forum need a FAQ?

Postby wongck » Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:41 pm

RetroGamerUK wrote:I see the Wiki has no logo, I could photochop one up to the same style as the one here if it's of any help?


OMG 8O
There was a logo before the Great Atari-Forum Crash !! 8O
(well did not crash... the previous hosting company crash out of business :roll: )
It is gone now. Does anyone have the old copy of the logo?
Guess you or Greyfox can have a crack at it now.
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Re: POLL: Does the forum need a FAQ?

Postby wongck » Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:46 pm

bid wrote:This work can be easily done in parallel at first, buy keeping the entire existing wiki front page online. Just build the new front page and sections, when/if we are happy with it, we can then easily copy the article links and stubs accross. Then put up a new banner, and tell people about it. What do you think?


I cannot visualise how it can be done in parallel.
The front page will be modified as it is build, no ?

First thing is to move this discussion over to the Wiki section of the forum :lol:
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Re: POLL: Does the forum need a FAQ?

Postby christos » Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:44 am

I am fairly confident that what could have been added to the wiki is the Atari ST quick faq so that anyone can edit and update the information in that that is out of date. The wiki format can really help for that since some stuff can be marked as keywords and get their own pages. For example this is the quick faq page for hard disks:

http://www.atari.org/hosted/quickfaq/stfaq_3.htm#2

One could add there satandisk and ultrasatandisk. These can be pages in the wiki that can be linked through keywords.

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Re: POLL: Does the forum need a FAQ?

Postby wongck » Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:54 am

Out of date?
It's not out of date, it is current :lol:
Just that it does not have the new stuff like UltraSatan Disk on it.

BTW, IIRC, there was already entries in the Wiki with UltraSatan Disk etc.
Even the HDD section, SofiST actually updated it with additional text (something like.... we are now in 2010 blah blah).
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Re: POLL: Does the forum need a FAQ?

Postby christos » Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:01 am

What I am suggesting is to use the quick faq a a template on which to build. Plus I said the parts that are out of date. For example the links...


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