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Re: Can somebody compile a Netsurf that works with 256 colours?

Postby calimero » Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:05 am

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what is OSSC? Monitor brand?

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Re: Can somebody compile a Netsurf that works with 256 colours?

Postby stormy » Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:42 am

OSSC is the open source scan converter. Takes any input source and outputs hdmi.
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Re: Can somebody compile a Netsurf that works with 256 colours?

Postby stormy » Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:04 pm

sety wrote:
mzry wrote:No I ended up getting an OSSC which should be more compatible than any multisync I would have thought. But maybe I'm wrong. Can your machine do 1024x768 TC as well? I can barely manage 256 with mine.


I wasn't able to get 1024x768 in TC but 1008x880 was fine. The highest 256 colour mode I got was 1344x1008. (I can't remember if that was before or after overclocked the bus)


I wonder if anyone else has managed such an amazing res in TC with their bus overclocked Falcon. I can still hardly believe it, your photographs blow my mind!
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Re: Can somebody compile a Netsurf that works with 256 colours?

Postby mikro » Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:02 pm

mzry wrote:I wonder if anyone else has managed such an amazing res in TC with their bus overclocked Falcon. I can still hardly believe it, your photographs blow my mind!

It's far below 30 Hz refresh rate which is OK for desktop. Accidentally, desktop is the only place where such high resolutions make sense. :)

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Re: Can somebody compile a Netsurf that works with 256 colours?

Postby stormy » Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:40 pm

mikro wrote:
mzry wrote:I wonder if anyone else has managed such an amazing res in TC with their bus overclocked Falcon. I can still hardly believe it, your photographs blow my mind!

It's far below 30 Hz refresh rate which is OK for desktop. Accidentally, desktop is the only place where such high resolutions make sense. :)


I'll play around with some of the advanced timing settings in my OSSC to see if I can make that res come to life for me.
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Re: Can somebody compile a Netsurf that works with 256 colours?

Postby sety » Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:57 am

mikro wrote:It's far below 30 Hz refresh rate which is OK for desktop. Accidentally, desktop is the only place where such high resolutions make sense. :)


It's noticeable if I try to play a video, but in terms of a desk top experience, menus, etc, it's no different to using a modern computer. Papyrus X is a dream. :)
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Re: Can somebody compile a Netsurf that works with 256 colours?

Postby sety » Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:59 am

mzry wrote:I wonder if anyone else has managed such an amazing res in TC with their bus overclocked Falcon. I can still hardly believe it, your photographs blow my mind!


Here's an earlier photo I took with 1344 x 1008 256 colour:

1344Falc.jpg


even in 256 colour the res is high enough that images look quite photorealistic.
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Re: Can somebody compile a Netsurf that works with 256 colours?

Postby stormy » Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:26 am

I reckon I'll have to get one of these monitors you're using, my OSSC can barely display 1024x768 @ 256 without losing sync constantly. I'll see if I can track one down here in the UK. With these sort of resolutions I wouldn't need a supervidel :)
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Re: Can somebody compile a Netsurf that works with 256 colours?

Postby stormy » Mon Dec 24, 2018 3:22 pm

Update! I tracked down a Dell U2410 and now I get the resolutions Sety has achieved! All I can say is wow! I love this monitor. Thanks for the settings Sety, much appreciated.
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Re: Can somebody compile a Netsurf that works with 256 colours?

Postby stormy » Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:35 pm

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Re: Can somebody compile a Netsurf that works with 256 colours?

Postby jfl » Tue Dec 25, 2018 10:22 am

mzry wrote:Update! I tracked down a Dell U2410 and now I get the resolutions Sety has achieved! All I can say is wow! I love this monitor. Thanks for the settings Sety, much appreciated.

Nice, but the aspect ratio doesn't look right.
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Re: Can somebody compile a Netsurf that works with 256 colours?

Postby stormy » Tue Dec 25, 2018 8:32 pm

Yeah the monitor won't force it to 4:3 as it is a non standard res. There may be a way around it so I'm talking to Sety about it :)
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Re: Can somebody compile a Netsurf that works with 256 colours?

Postby sety » Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:31 am

If you're happy with 256 colour then 1536x1008 is a nice mode. It fills the screen and aspect ratio is correct.

1536x1008.JPG


Being able to run NetSurf is a bit of a luxury so I don't mind at all that my computer's TC modes look a little stretched. :)
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Re: Can somebody compile a Netsurf that works with 256 colours?

Postby wongck » Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:25 pm

sety wrote:Image


Nice colourful desktop :thumbs: :D
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Re: Can somebody compile a Netsurf that works with 256 colours?

Postby stormy » Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:03 pm

sety wrote:If you're happy with 256 colour then 1536x1008 is a nice mode. It fills the screen and aspect ratio is correct.

1536x1008.JPG

Being able to run NetSurf is a bit of a luxury so I don't mind at all that my computer's TC modes look a little stretched. :)


Could you tell me the videlity settings for this please?
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Re: Can somebody compile a Netsurf that works with 256 colours?

Postby sety » Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:27 am

mzry wrote:Could you tell me the videlity settings for this please?


IMG_1508.JPG


XBoot allows for some limited scripting, so you can set it up to copy across the correct xaaes video settings for the desired colour depth. You could also do the same with videlity.inf if you wanted to have a selection of resolutions to boot into.
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Re: Can somebody compile a Netsurf that works with 256 colours?

Postby stormy » Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:27 am

sety wrote:
mzry wrote:Could you tell me the videlity settings for this please?


IMG_1508.JPG

XBoot allows for some limited scripting, so you can set it up to copy across the correct xaaes video settings for the desired colour depth. You could also do the same with videlity.inf if you wanted to have a selection of resolutions to boot into.


Thanks sety this works great! Just wondering if you tweak the 'phase' on the monitor at all to remove some of those wavy dark/light lines on the screen? They're only really noticeable on a full colour background like blue, probably won't be noticeable with a proper background picture.
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Re: Can somebody compile a Netsurf that works with 256 colours?

Postby stormy » Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:50 am

Damn the Falcon is such a fine machine... 1536x1008 running IRC and Falcamp MP3 playback with 89% CPU available free.

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Re: Can somebody compile a Netsurf that works with 256 colours?

Postby sety » Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:27 pm

mzry wrote:Thanks sety this works great! Just wondering if you tweak the 'phase' on the monitor at all to remove some of those wavy dark/light lines on the screen? They're only really noticeable on a full colour background like blue, probably won't be noticeable with a proper background picture.


It's noise. :( There isn't much you can do about it except find It and ground it.

As much fun as we're having, it has been pointed out that the frequencies are getting very low when finding these resolutions... Low enough to expect some sympathy to other systems on the board. But that's nothing new. I remember the first time I got the the grandparents 520ST and plugged it into a TV. You could hear it accessing the bus every time the bee went away and a window opened! :)
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Re: Can somebody compile a Netsurf that works with 256 colours?

Postby sety » Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:36 pm

mzry wrote:Damn the Falcon is such a fine machine...


Real hardware ❤️

There are emulators; but then there is also the venerable Motorola 68* series. :)
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