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DBE-Tracker - a question

Postby yerzmyey » Wed May 12, 2010 3:51 pm

Hi there.

I was wondering about the DBE-Tracker. It's on DHS site and it's in "demo" version. 16 digital channels for Atari STe is more than impressive.

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However here is my question:

Is it only unfinished project without saving possibility (only a player actually)?
or
Is it a "demo" in a sense of commercial program that I could buy somewhere and HAVE the saving possibility???

Maybe anybody knows.

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Re: DBE-Tracker - a question

Postby lotek_style » Wed May 12, 2010 4:21 pm

Hey Yerz :) It was a shareware programm by Sector One... I've attached a regged version from Elite. Haven't tried it but I guess saving works here.
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Re: DBE-Tracker - a question

Postby yerzmyey » Wed May 12, 2010 4:57 pm

lotek_style wrote:Hey Yerz :) It was a shareware programm by Sector One... I've attached a regged version from Elite. Haven't tried it but I guess saving works here.


WOW, DUDE - many thanx!!!! =8-D

So now I'm not sure if I'm allowed to give it to anybody, heheh. :)
I wanted to write an article about some Falcon and STe digital trackers so now I can write that DBE is fully-useful (if I can say it in this way, hahah). Also I was thinking (for the future) about making some small compo for F030/STe multichannel compo, but for that I would have to share with the prog, so I hope it's OK for its authors, hm.

As for my own use: THANX AGAIN! ;)
I do appreciate this. :)

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Re: DBE-Tracker - a question

Postby lotek_style » Wed May 12, 2010 4:58 pm

Well try to mail ST GHOST...he is the coder:

http://deunstg.free.fr/sct1/s_dbetkr.htm

I dont think he has anything against it after all those years.
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Re: DBE-Tracker - a question

Postby Marcer » Wed May 12, 2010 5:13 pm

Lotek.. well.. he did an update not so long ago.. and dont be too sure.. I asked for full version from him just in time of v1.09.. ;)

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Re: DBE-Tracker - a question

Postby yerzmyey » Wed May 12, 2010 9:58 pm

Well guyz, I could theoretically understand him but... after all these years?
Nowaydays even Atari XL/XE (8-bit) can play MODs (I finished it yesterday: http://yerzmyey.i-demo.pl/xl_digital/Ye ... lution.mp3 - pure Atari 800 XL and POKEY :) ).
Well, I wrote to the author and I will restrain myself before his answer. However I think it would be great to promote "e" series among the people. Even if not this year - maybe next year. Hm.
I will wait.
Still - HUGE thanx for all the help!!!!
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Re: DBE-Tracker - a question

Postby Desty » Fri May 21, 2010 6:36 pm

Any developments on this? How does a 16-channel tracker on an ST work?? Must be lots of software mixing going on... any idea how much CPU a good replay routine for this might use? e.g. If you could use most of the channels for music (12 would be loads) and a few dynamic channels for sound effects, that would be amazing in a game!

Actually the Sector 1 website says it's a 32 voice tracker... :?: :!: 8O
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Re: DBE-Tracker - a question

Postby yerzmyey » Fri May 21, 2010 9:58 pm

I'm afraid the software we're talking about is only for "e"series. :(
However if Your'e a fan of the pure ST (like I am), You might be interested in this article:
http://atarimusic.net/forum/topic?f=124&t=107
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Re: DBE-Tracker - a question

Postby Desty » Fri May 21, 2010 10:20 pm

yerzmyey wrote:I'm afraid the software we're talking about is only for "e"series. :(
However if Your'e a fan of the pure ST (like I am), You might be interested in this article:
http://atarimusic.net/forum/topic?f=124&t=107

Yeah I know, but it seems like actually most people with an ST nowadays have an STe - both of mine are, and we have Steem and Hatari for emulation...

Actually that might be a good poll for another thread... what proportion of people have an ST(FM) but no STe, vs how many people have an STe :)

Nice little article though, having a read now. How does this STe tracker get 16 (or even 32) channels tho - is there some magic that the DMA/blitter offer which helps realtime software mixing?
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Re: DBE-Tracker - a question

Postby Desty » Fri May 21, 2010 10:58 pm

BTW a nice comparison of the output from some trackers including DBE (which sounded very good, along with Octalyser):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfMrvI2sg90
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Re: DBE-Tracker - a question

Postby yerzmyey » Thu Sep 09, 2010 7:29 pm

OK guys, now _that's_ weird.

Every time I load DBE Tracker and load ANY module (even 4channels) it has SO distorted sound (doesn't matter - the STe or emulator) and the more channels, the more huge distortions.

Today I loaded into DBE mu 8-channels module from Octalyser and...... DBE plays it clear like glass!!!

My question is: what is going on with this program? Where to change AUDIO features?
Where to change number of channels?

Today I'm confused.
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Re: DBE-Tracker - a question

Postby MiggyMog » Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:15 pm

I haven't used DBE a great deal as it was the demo version which wouldn't save. It also has awful colours.
I did notice that it can load .MID files the last time I used it though!
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Re: DBE-Tracker - a question

Postby yerzmyey » Fri Sep 10, 2010 8:16 am

Meanwhile I found the channels changing (well, wasn't hide very deep ;) but wasn't working "at once", so I was confused).

STILL - the program sounds like _CRAP_ and it's impossible it is its regular feature. There must be something to regulate it. To set up the sound properties.
But how????????

On the video mentioned by Desty, DBE sounds good. When I load the same module, it sounds like crap and not only on real machine but also on emulator.
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