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Biased eBay guide

Postby catmando » Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:42 am

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Postby AtariZoll » Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:52 am

Just another brick in the wall ..
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Re: Biased eBay guide

Postby Frank B » Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:42 pm

Tsk. Amiga fan bois.

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Postby Zarchos » Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:47 pm

At least he doesn't say anything about the Acorn BBC A3000 because he admits he's got no experience of these machines.
If only the French Amiga fanboys could do the same, it would be a relief. ;-)
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Re: Biased eBay guide

Postby Robson » Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:14 pm

This won' t boost Atari sales on ebay hun (not you catmando), they'll stay with me.
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Postby DarkLord » Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:28 pm

That's just really lame...
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Postby Silly_Pony » Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:18 am

Well, it is true, the Amiga is a more capable machine in most respects. I'd give it the edge on being easier to put more memory in and a nicer keyboard.

Both the ST and Amiga are still fairly crude machines, though. So if you're willing to mess with them in 2016, neither machine's flaws should put you off because no matter which one, you're going to be spending a lot of time and money rectifying them.
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Re: Biased eBay guide

Postby Frank B » Sun Feb 14, 2016 3:07 pm

Silly_Pony wrote:Well, it is true, the Amiga is a more capable machine in most respects. I'd give it the edge on being easier to put more memory in and a nicer keyboard.

Both the ST and Amiga are still fairly crude machines, though. So if you're willing to mess with them in 2016, neither machine's flaws should put you off because no matter which one, you're going to be spending a lot of time and money rectifying them.


Oh there are Amiga crazies out there that think an a500 is usable as a main computer in 2016. They all tend to have macs and PCs. Wonder why.

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Postby DarkLord » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:59 pm

Silly_Pony wrote:Well, it is true, the Amiga is a more capable machine in most respects. I'd give it the edge on being easier to put more memory in and a nicer keyboard.


Depends entirely on the model. How is it easier than an STe or Mega STe?

As to keyboards, I had an A1000 (my favorite Amiga keyboard, especially the recessed well, although the direction keys were a bit odd), A2000, and 2 A1200's.

None of those could compare to my Mega ST's, Mega STe's, or STacy's keyboards. Also, call me STrange, but I prefer a ST keyboard modified with the TT Touch upgrade over any of the Amiga's I had.

Silly_Pony wrote:Both the ST and Amiga are still fairly crude machines, though. So if you're willing to mess with them in 2016, neither machine's flaws should put you off because no matter which one, you're going to be spending a lot of time and money rectifying them.


Depends on what shape they're in when you get them, and what you are planning on doing with them. Both are good retro machines, IMHO.
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Postby darklight » Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:44 am

I'm not seeing much fanboyism here? He's talking about A500 v STFM - by far the most common models at that time - I think that's fair, right? Most of those statements ring true for me, and I was firmly placed in the ST camp at the time & since. What are you're problems with that he's saying?
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Re: Biased eBay guide

Postby galax » Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:29 am

The image and the comment about the ST's graphics was weird: "The image below shows a comparison of the 2 systems. The Amiga is simply more vibrant."

The colour balance seems to be off in the ST 'Gods' image; it has a strange yellow/green cast that shouldn't be there. Larger palette (pre-STE) and built-in modes with more colours on-screen, sure, but "more vibrant"?

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Re: Biased eBay guide

Postby Total Eclipse » Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:34 am

DarkLord wrote:
Silly_Pony wrote:Well, it is true, the Amiga is a more capable machine in most respects. I'd give it the edge on being easier to put more memory in and a nicer keyboard.


Depends entirely on the model. How is it easier than an STe or Mega STe?


I'd agree with Silly_Pony with regards to the memory upgrades - on every Amiga I've owned, upgrading the memory is nothing more than turning the machine over, opening the trap door, inserting the memory board and putting the trap door back on. Granted, the STe improved on the STfm by using standard SIMMs, but that still required the user to take a screwdriver to it and remove the whole case.

darklight wrote:I'm not seeing much fanboyism here? He's talking about A500 v STFM

I assumed that too, though clearly he doesn't get off to a good start as he not even aware of the palette of a STfm (quotes 4096 colours).
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Re: Biased eBay guide

Postby Ragstaff » Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:21 am

darklight wrote:I'm not seeing much fanboyism here? He's talking about A500 v STFM - by far the most common models at that time - I think that's fair, right? Most of those statements ring true for me, and I was firmly placed in the ST camp at the time & since. What are you're problems with that he's saying?

One thing I disagree with:
While the ST versions of games are just as playable, they look and sound more like the Commodore 64 or Amstrad CPC versions.

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Re: Biased eBay guide

Postby catmando » Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:46 am

Ragstaff wrote:
darklight wrote:I'm not seeing much fanboyism here? He's talking about A500 v STFM - by far the most common models at that time - I think that's fair, right? Most of those statements ring true for me, and I was firmly placed in the ST camp at the time & since. What are you're problems with that he's saying?

One thing I disagree with:
While the ST versions of games are just as playable, they look and sound more like the Commodore 64 or Amstrad CPC versions.


The graphics on the c64 and amstrad are not even in the same ballpark as the ST
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Re: Biased eBay guide

Postby Ragstaff » Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:42 pm

catmando wrote:The graphics on the c64 and amstrad are not even in the same ballpark as the ST

Exactly. The Amiga fanatic let his colours show there ;-) I bet no editor at eBay even asked for such an article to be written, it would have been an Amiga fanatic who saw the opportunity, wrote the article, gave it to eBay and they lapped it up as every website wants original content


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