NEW USB Host Controller via ACSI

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Re: NEW USB Host Controller via ACSI

Postby alanh » Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:03 am

USB Storage is working :-) with the help of Roger Burrows (Mr anodyne himself).....

Here's a video of the whole hotplug setup, this is using my USB mouse too.

http://youtu.be/mrO-3sKFe6k
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Re: NEW USB Host Controller via ACSI

Postby frank.lukas » Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:56 am

... is it pure TOS without MiNT ?
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Re: NEW USB Host Controller via ACSI

Postby alanh » Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:56 am

Yes. Pure TOS. No MiNT at all.
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Re: NEW USB Host Controller via ACSI

Postby Jungsi » Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:14 pm

That's great - is there a chance to get the Software for TOS ? That would be really nice cause my Unicorn is only waiting for this,
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Re: NEW USB Host Controller via ACSI

Postby alanh » Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:17 pm

Yes. I'll be preparing some beta drivers soon.
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Re: NEW USB Host Controller via ACSI

Postby MiggyMog » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:47 pm

Great work allan! Put me down for one :-)

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Re: NEW USB Host Controller via ACSI

Postby alanh » Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:54 pm

Another update...

Roger has added support for Atari style partitions (i.e. GEM, BGM and XGM). There's still an open bug here, but it will be fixed soon.

Also, I've added SCSIDRV support to the mass storage USB driver so now we can use HDDRUTIL to get compatible partitioning.

This video is on my STE with the Unicorn :-)

http://youtu.be/UMlW5wCZYwI

I just want to fix a few "known" remaining bugs before I do a "beta" release, and then get some release notes together with the current issues as I see them with the USB devices I have access to.
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Re: NEW USB Host Controller via ACSI

Postby alanh » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:30 pm

I'm now out of stock of the Unicorn devices.

I'm taking pre-orders for another batch. I need 10 to complete, and I've got one already. These are just emails to say you want one. I'll take payment when I have 10 confirmed orders.

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Re: NEW USB Host Controller via ACSI

Postby bullis1 » Sat Apr 19, 2014 1:35 pm

Great work alanh. Now that TOS support is underway and it supports a few more devices, it's an extremely attractive device. If RAM costs are kept low this could really take off. I'm currently fighting the urge to pre-order until I get a further idea of the scope of TOS functionality.
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Re: NEW USB Host Controller via ACSI

Postby alanh » Sat Apr 19, 2014 1:37 pm

Hi bullis1,

Not sure what you mean by "If RAM costs are kept low" - RAM???
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Re: NEW USB Host Controller via ACSI

Postby bullis1 » Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:49 pm

alanh wrote:Hi bullis1,

Not sure what you mean by "If RAM costs are kept low" - RAM???

Sorry, I really wasn't clear. What I meant was if the necessary drivers did not occupy too much memory under TOS.

Currently I use a combination of the MSTE's internal hard-drive, an external SCSI hard-drive with many partitions, and a SCSI DVD/RW. Between HDdriver, extendos, etc. it can use up a significant chunk of memory if I have everything loaded up.
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Re: NEW USB Host Controller via ACSI

Postby alanh » Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:50 pm

O.k. yes, I'm trying to keep them as low as possible. You can see the footprint for the actual binaries earlier in this thread, but there is some runtime memory too.
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Re: NEW USB Host Controller via ACSI

Postby troed » Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:14 pm

Would it be possible to buy a stripped down version without the ACSI connectors (and even the power-USB connector)? I'm thinking of mounting one internally and would then remove the existing ACSI connector and solder to this PCB directly (or figure out what would be needed to make the existing one the pass trough - cutting tracks I guess) and mount it so that the USB port is accessible from the outside.

I realise I can buy the full version and desolder the connectors but since those are rare it's easier not to put them there to begin with ;)

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Re: NEW USB Host Controller via ACSI

Postby alanh » Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:53 pm

Hi troed,

That's not a bad idea actually. I guess I could add a pin header to the board for internal mounting to make it easier and a plug in fit for MegaST (and possibly MegaSTE/STacy) users too.
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Re: NEW USB Host Controller via ACSI

Postby Sowden » Sun Apr 20, 2014 5:07 am

Hey man. I'm really close to going with this cool piece. I have a question though that I'm not sure if you can do, but I thought I'd toss this out there. I'm wondering if we could use the USB port as an image mounter. Take a look at the SIO2PC and Aspeqt for the 8bit machines. Someone wrote a windows program that worked as an image mounter and you can load it with real Atari hardware. Now someone would have to create a program like that, but do you think that something like that would be possiable? Thanks man, I think you have a real nice piece there. Later.

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Re: NEW USB Host Controller via ACSI

Postby alanh » Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:19 am

I'm not sure why a peripheral emulator is needed. The SCSIDRV work I've just done should open up lots of software now.
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Re: NEW USB Host Controller via ACSI

Postby alanh » Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:21 am

One thing to ensure people understand with this, it's a single USB port, and it's not directly bootable.

I'm considering TOS patches which would make this bootable later, but that's a fair way off with all the other work lined up.
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Re: NEW USB Host Controller via ACSI

Postby troed » Sun Apr 20, 2014 9:22 am

alanh wrote:Hi troed,

That's not a bad idea actually. I guess I could add a pin header to the board for internal mounting to make it easier and a plug in fit for MegaST (and possibly MegaSTE/STacy) users too.


As long as it's not _more_ work for you - I was hoping to make it less ;) I haven't put myself down for a fully populated version but please consider myself interested in one without the connectors. I'm going to mount it inside a regular STE.

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Re: NEW USB Host Controller via ACSI

Postby alanh » Sun Apr 20, 2014 9:40 am

Hi Troed,

It's not much extra work and I can provide options for user then for internal mounting. So a great idea.
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Re: NEW USB Host Controller via ACSI

Postby qq1975b » Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:47 pm

Very interesting an internal version for Mega ST/STe users.

Is it not autoboot with TOS 2.06 too?
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Re: NEW USB Host Controller via ACSI

Postby alanh » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:55 pm

No, not even with TOS 2.06.
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Re: NEW USB Host Controller via ACSI

Postby frank.lukas » Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:13 pm

My Devices arrived today, thanks …

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Re: NEW USB Host Controller via ACSI

Postby russ » Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:18 am

Great job on a new item for the ST line, Is it possible to use acsi/scsi at the same time? your device with ultrasatan-acsi - :mrgreen: hd and cdrom reader with scsi?
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Re: NEW USB Host Controller via ACSI

Postby alanh » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:38 am

Yes. I'm using my ultrasatan with it. You can see that in the videos.
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Re: NEW USB Host Controller via ACSI

Postby Sowden » Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:31 pm

Thanks for answering my questions. Got one more though, can the Unicorn be powered by plugging in a USB cable into a laptop, instead of using a cell phone charger?


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