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Re: Atari st series computers conversion PC

Postby wongck » Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:14 pm

spiny wrote:
joska wrote:The floppy LED is available on pin 3 on the keyboard connector, so there is no need to hack the keyboard itself to do this.

now you tell me :D


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Re: Atari st series computers conversion PC

Postby 1st1 » Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:34 pm

The topic of this thread here is: Conversion of an Atari into something looking like a PC, right? The following photo is just from today, a quick test of the Midi-Maze-Network, the question is, how many ATAR and how many PC do you see... (level 2: Can you identify all the models?)

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Re: Atari st series computers conversion PC

Postby wongck » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:21 am

The answer is NONE... :lol: :lol: The picture did not come out because it needs a logon to atari-home.de
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Re: Atari st series computers conversion PC

Postby 1st1 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:32 pm

Now you can see it.
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Re: Atari st series computers conversion PC

Postby Robson » Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:58 am

"The topic of this thread here is: Conversion of an Atari into something looking like a PC, right?"

Wrong. The topic is about converting a PC to something looking like an Atari :).

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Re: Atari st series computers conversion PC

Postby Robson » Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:03 am

Since PC means personal computer, all computers on the picture are PCs.
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Re: Atari st series computers conversion PC

Postby 1st1 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:23 am

Robson wrote:Wrong. The topic is about converting a PC to something looking like an Atari :).


You are doing strange things here!!!
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Re: Atari st series computers conversion PC

Postby Silly_Pony » Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:19 pm

Robson wrote:Since PC means personal computer, all computers on the picture are PCs.


Nice semantics. PC is used to mean IBM PC clone since forever. :roll:
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Re: Atari st series computers conversion PC

Postby wongck » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:14 pm

Silly_Pony wrote:
Robson wrote:Since PC means personal computer, all computers on the picture are PCs.

Nice semantics. PC is used to mean IBM PC clone since forever. :roll:


Not if you were around long enough.
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Re: Atari st series computers conversion PC

Postby Methanoid » Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:52 pm

Two questions for the hackers (two different projects in mind)

1) Can the ST KB be "converted" to interface to PS2 (not USB)

2) Anybody got a 520/260ST and able to confirm if an ITX board will fit inside?
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Re: Atari st series computers conversion PC

Postby joska » Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:47 pm

Methanoid wrote:1) Can the ST KB be "converted" to interface to PS2 (not USB)


Yes. See earlier in this topic.
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Re: Atari st series computers conversion PC

Postby Robson » Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:02 am

Methanoid wrote:Two questions for the hackers (two different projects in mind)
2) Anybody got a 520/260ST and able to confirm if an ITX board will fit inside?


I'm not 100% sure, mine was a STfm case which is slightly deeper but even with this I had to go for the low profile memory not to hit the keyboard. I'd say not to the itx.
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Re: Atari st series computers conversion PC

Postby Methanoid » Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:26 am

Robson wrote:
Methanoid wrote:Two questions for the hackers (two different projects in mind)
2) Anybody got a 520/260ST and able to confirm if an ITX board will fit inside?


I'm not 100% sure, mine was a STfm case which is slightly deeper but even with this I had to go for the low profile memory not to hit the keyboard. I'd say not to the itx.
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Thanks.. well looks like if I want to do a PC inside a 520/260ST it will have to be a laptop board if at all... ITX is gonna be too big... even a "thin ITX" like D945GSEJT and its replacement
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Re: Atari st series computers conversion PC

Postby AxelG » Sat Sep 01, 2012 1:52 pm

Hi,

well I tried to place an (albeit complete) Netbook inside a ST.
It had to be an STFM and it was a pretty close fit, still. ;)

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Re: Atari st series computers conversion PC

Postby Methanoid » Sat Sep 01, 2012 1:56 pm

AxelG wrote:Hi,

well I tried to place an (albeit complete) Netbook inside a ST.
It had to be an STFM and it was a pretty close fit, still. ;)

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Yeah but that was with casing wasnt it?
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Re: Atari st series computers conversion PC

Postby AxelG » Sat Sep 01, 2012 2:00 pm

Yepp:

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But even without the netbook case the ground place for it remains the same. I seriously doubt you can place a laptop board there.

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Re: Atari st series computers conversion PC

Postby Methanoid » Sat Sep 01, 2012 2:20 pm

What? Without the top LCD screen and without the KB or the bottom plastic.. Just the mobo - you dont think it would slide further forward? I dont have an ST right now (or STFM/STE) so can't check but the only difference is depth so if your BARE motherboard could go closer to the front edge of the unit and we could estimate the gap at the back we could check if this would squeeze into the small ST/STM units :?
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Re: Atari st series computers conversion PC

Postby AxelG » Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:00 pm

Well, just try it, right? ;)

It probably even depends on you actual motherboard. The sheer size but the IC's placement, also.

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Re: Atari st series computers conversion PC

Postby wongck » Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:31 am

AxelG wrote:I seriously doubt you can place a laptop board there.


Nice try :lol: :lol:
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Re: Atari st series computers conversion PC

Postby AxelG » Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:30 pm

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Re: Atari st series computers conversion PC

Postby wongck » Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:20 pm

yeap.... ever since like 4 years ago. :wink:
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Re: Atari st series computers conversion PC

Postby Atarist8te74 » Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:55 pm

God I love how you guys have embraced the ST to PC conversion and then sorted out the biggest problem which was the keyboard!
Im slowly build an old amiga 500 mini itx and often find myself looking at an ST and thinking "The dam keyboard cannot be used!" until I found this thread :D

So I want to make one now, does anyone know where I can get a Teensy in the uk?
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Re: Atari st series computers conversion PC

Postby joska » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:09 am

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Re: Atari st series computers conversion PC

Postby lschafroth » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:15 am

I think I am going to try a conversion using a 520ST. It has a lot less room but I have access to a mac mini that I could use as the guts. I also thought about using the parts from a laptop which would be very small. The only part I would not have is the Teensie board.

Would anyone be willing to make one for me and I can pay for it and shipping??

If I go with the mac mini should I use OSX as the os and boot into a emulator or should I do a linux distro on it and boot into Aranym or hatari or something?

I never did find a good complete guide for aranym from scratch on a linux setup. My goal is to boot directly to a modern Atari desktop.

thoughts on the mac mini or laptop parts?

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Re: Atari st series computers conversion PC

Postby joska » Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:06 am

lschafroth wrote:I think I am going to try a conversion using a 520ST.


Please note that the STM does not have the same keyboard as the other ST's. All other ST's has the mouse- and keyboard-connectors on the keyboard itself. On the STM they're on the motherboard. So if you want to use the mouse/joystick on an STM you need to figure out a solution for the connectors and wire them up to the keyboard connector.

lschafroth wrote:The only part I would not have is the Teensie board.

Would anyone be willing to make one for me and I can pay for it and shipping??


You don't have a soldering iron? The Teensy is complete, you only need to add a connector for the ST keyboard.
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