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Eiffel Schematics

Postby alanh » Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:34 pm

Hi all,

I read somewhere that Jookie used to do Eiffels but no longer produces them.

Jookie - if you are reading, would it be possible to share your schematics so others can produce ??

Or has anyone else got schematics done they can share ?

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Re: Eiffel Schematics

Postby Jookie » Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:58 am

alanh wrote:I read somewhere that Jookie used to do Eiffels but no longer produces them.


Yes, that was a long time ago :)

alanh wrote:Jookie - if you are reading, would it be possible to share your schematics so others can produce ??


The schematics were (are?) free on the web site(s) of the Eiffel creators. I drawn the PCBs, but I don't have the schematics - the program for PCBs can draw the PCB without schematics (all drawn manualy by user).

I could post those PCBs online if you want...

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Re: Eiffel Schematics

Postby alanh » Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:09 am

Sorry, yes, the PCB files is what I want.

That'd be great !

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Re: Eiffel Schematics

Postby eeun » Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:59 pm

I really can't remember where I got these schematics. I thought they were from Didier's site, but can only see the link on his site that has the software or hex file for the PIC chip. I think they're Didier's, and since he released Eiffel under a GPL-like license, they should be okay to post here.

Note that there is one glaring error with these PCB layouts. The PS/2 connectors have their shield grounds attached to the +5V line! I fried my first PIC before figuring out the layout was wrong.

I ended up taking these images and re-drawing the 5V line around the PS/2 connectors in a graphics editor (see jpg below). Sized them for printing by trial and error based on measuring the length of the pic chip.
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Re: Eiffel PCB

Postby alanh » Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:46 pm

Jookie, any chance ??
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Re: Eiffel PCB

Postby Jookie » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:24 am

alanh wrote:Jookie, any chance ??


Sorry, I wasn't home for couple of days (at the time you asked me) and then I forgot :) I will put them here the next time I will go home (tomorrow?)...

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Re: Eiffel Schematics

Postby alanh » Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:06 pm

Another ping. please :-)
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Re: Eiffel Schematics

Postby techie_alison » Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:17 pm

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Re: Eiffel Schematics

Postby alanh » Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:16 pm

Sorry techie_alison, it wasn't the actual schematics. I'm after a PCB layout already done.

I've started to tackle it in Eagle but I'm only about 15% through and wrangling with eagle is delaying me.

If anyone has PCB layout's ready in format the PCB Pool or some other place could produce, I'm all ears.
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Re: Eiffel Schematics

Postby techie_alison » Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:56 pm

Use Top-Tec-Pcb. They're cheaper overall.

What with the 21% EIRE VAT, no resist or silk, of PCB Pool. Saying that though, when I spoke to PCB-Pool I did find them ultra ultra helpful and friendly. I sometimes feel a bit stupid and a nuisance with other engineering companies. That I don't like, being spoken to like an idiot. It's often the male environments that do that, but once I've put my foot down and got to know them then I stick with them.

How have you got on with PCB-Pool? I would use them if it was cheaper and had the capabilities.

Eagle though, it's pretty easy once you get used to it, but building up a library and the schematic is essential. That's the fiddly bit.

I can make boards here easily enough, it's just the vias that are difficult.
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Re: Eiffel Schematics

Postby alanh » Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:42 am

If you can make boards - how much ??
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Re: Eiffel Schematics

Postby alanh » Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:57 am

It's o.k. I've wrestled with Eagle and have my board ready :-)
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Re: Eiffel Schematics

Postby anodyne » Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:12 pm

Hi Alan,
If you plan on making multiple boards, I'm interested! Otherwise, can you post your Eagle files?

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Re: Eiffel Schematics

Postby Shredder11 » Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:27 am

Me too, so count me in for one if you do!

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Re: Eiffel Schematics

Postby tinf030 » Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:49 pm

I'd buy two.


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Re: Eiffel Schematics

Postby alanh » Sat Feb 28, 2009 7:54 pm

I'm going to get 3 prototyped first with my current design. Once I'm happy with that I'll get a batch made up. Probably 50 or so.

So there'll probably be options.....

1. LED's do you really need them for the mouse & keyboard ??
2. LCD interface - is that required ?? additional option ? I'll probably skip this on the prototype.
3. CANbus for coldfire boards. This will be on the prototype as it's why I'm doing it.
4. Board layout, square board with ps2 connectors on the front and joystick on the rear. This is good for external units. Or joystick & ps2 on a backplate for internal mounting in towers.

No idea on costs yet, but I'm guessing somewhere between £30 to £40 for the production units. Hopefully less, but we'll see.

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Re: Eiffel Schematics

Postby tinf030 » Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:45 pm

I had an Eiffel before for a while so I can comment.

1. No
2. No
3. OK
4. Perhaps Joystick optional? Or just pins to attach optional cables.

This would keep the cost down. Your estimated price suit me fine.

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Re: Eiffel Schematics

Postby anodyne » Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:43 pm

Hi Alan,
Are you planning on selling bare boards as well as populated ones?
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Re: Eiffel Schematics

Postby alanh » Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:52 am

Bare boards is certainly an option too.
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Re: Eiffel Schematics

Postby alanh » Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:04 pm

O.k. I've got my prototyped boards back. The board is a full Eiffel that can support CAN, LED's, temperature, Joystick ports and LCD.

So if people didn't want things on the board, the components just don't get soldered. As for CAN, there's jumpers on the board to switch, but you need to swap out the PIC and add a CAN chip too, but it's a painless process.

I'll post here again once I've checked things out.
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Re: Eiffel Schematics

Postby techie_alison » Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:26 pm

Can we see some pictures of the PCBs? Cost? Who from etc?

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Re: Eiffel Schematics

Postby alanh » Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:35 pm

Here's a piccy of my current Eiffel board.

It's working as a basic Eiffel, need to test the other parts yet.
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Re: Eiffel Schematics

Postby GokMasE » Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:13 pm

This looks like very good news to me! :cheers:
Especially since my old Eiffel appears to be wrecked after a failed attempt to flash new firmware to it!

Any estimation on when these goodies might be heading for a production batch by any chance? :)

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Re: Eiffel Schematics

Postby alanh » Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:56 am

I reckon another 2 weeks for testing, then I guess I'll set something up to accept a pre-order phase (without payment) so I can gauge how many interested parties there are.

Then do the production and take things from there.
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Re: Eiffel Schematics

Postby techie_alison » Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:42 am

I could repair that. :D I'm all set up to work with PICs. :D

GokMasE wrote:This looks like very good news to me! :cheers:
Especially since my old Eiffel appears to be wrecked after a failed attempt to flash new firmware to it!

Any estimation on when these goodies might be heading for a production batch by any chance? :)

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