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Atari 520/1040 ST F/FM/E repro boxes - In the making

Postby Robson » Thu May 03, 2018 5:47 am

Hi,

After the Falcon, STBook and other ST box I decided to give this one a go.

This will be a universal box for the built-in drive models (even Falcons fit).
On the side there will be a product selector where you can mark the model you have in there.

Design is pretty much there, I'm looking for the cost effective production for these but the low volume printing makes it difficult to come up with a good price.

I'm looking for your input here without any commitments if you're interested in these boxes for yourself. This would help me to judge production volume.


The price will be around 30-40GBP + shipping as things are at the moment. I know this is a lot, when you can buy an ST for this price but I don't make a living producing these. Shipping can also be a killer since extra boxes are needed to protect them. There won't be any discounts unfortunately, no buy 1 get 1 free, I'm charged by the piece.

A kit would include:
- White ST box repro
- 2 x repro polystyrene inserts to hold the computer in place

I'm also looking for the option to replace the smaller brown cardboard box for the mouse, docs, cables but that's not yet confirmed. At the moment it'll add too much to the end price.

I'm not yet decided to send this to production.

See photos and let me know.


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Re: Atari 520/1040 ST F/FM/E repro boxes - In the making

Postby ST Graveyard » Thu May 03, 2018 8:46 am

You can sign me up...but you already knew that! Looks very cool!
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Re: Atari 520/1040 ST F/FM/E repro boxes - In the making

Postby KLund1 » Thu May 03, 2018 10:30 pm

This is another great product! Thanks.
A couple thoughts. Perhaps offer inserts for 260/520ST that would fit into the same box. Adding additional section boxes on the side.
What about those fancy, colorful ST boxes they were first introduced with. Any possibility for those? Future 354/314 drive boxes, maybe?

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Re: Atari 520/1040 ST F/FM/E repro boxes - In the making

Postby Atari74user » Fri May 04, 2018 6:41 am

A new shiny box, ahhhh go on, count me in!
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Re: Atari 520/1040 ST F/FM/E repro boxes - In the making

Postby alexh » Fri May 04, 2018 6:59 am

Put me down for two. I'll collect like last time if that's ok? Take a look at your ATW-800? :)

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Re: Atari 520/1040 ST F/FM/E repro boxes - In the making

Postby Robson » Fri May 04, 2018 11:04 am

alexh wrote:Put me down for two. I'll collect like last time if that's ok? Take a look at your ATW-800? :)


Sure. No problem with that.

KLund1 wrote:This is another great product! Thanks.
A couple thoughts. Perhaps offer inserts for 260/520ST that would fit into the same box. Adding additional section boxes on the side.
What about those fancy, colorful ST boxes they were first introduced with. Any possibility for those? Future 354/314 drive boxes, maybe?

I am very grateful for my Falcon and STbook boxes!!


All the extra and unique size inserts for the box would only add to the final price. This is why the smaller cardboard is on hold for now. It might just be the case of finding a standard size postal box that fits ok. That box itself comes out cheap but the tool charge is £120 on top and with low volumes this would significantly increase the price ( adding 4gbp/each extra for 30 boxes). I don't think that small custom size box worth £6-8gbp extra. Tell me if I'm wrong.

Good points flagged but these boxes are to serve for the built-in drive models. I can create a version with those models on the side but I will probably not send that to production. I'll stick with the f/fm/e range.

What colourful boxes you meant? Can you show?

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Postby spiny » Fri May 04, 2018 1:00 pm

I think Klund might mean the outer sleeves that came with the 'packs' ?

anyway, stick me down for one :)

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Postby Robson » Fri May 04, 2018 1:24 pm

ah, I only made this sleeve as a repro before, probably you know about.
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The US and German 520's had different colourful packaging I thought he meant that.
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Re: Atari 520/1040 ST F/FM/E repro boxes - In the making

Postby damanloox » Fri May 04, 2018 2:31 pm

are falcon boxes still available...?
also - any chance for TT boxes..?

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Postby Robson » Fri May 04, 2018 3:20 pm

damanloox wrote:are falcon boxes still available...?
also - any chance for TT boxes..?


No more falcon boxes left for sale. I have filled them up with falcons.

TT can be an option in the future. Mine has no box either. But I have a fully boxed mega ste that can be used as a reference. I would imagine costs would be at least double looking at sizes and inserts. Maybe another repro for the keyboard + polysyrene. Not a simple project to do. I would think it is only for deep pockets. And shipping. Ouch.
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Re: Atari 520/1040 ST F/FM/E repro boxes - In the making

Postby ST Graveyard » Fri May 04, 2018 5:10 pm

Sign me up for a TT and Mega STe box!

Also, I make the boxes for the cables myself, if this will ever become reality, I need quite a bit of those as well ;) and what about the small boxes for the mouse itself?
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Postby Robson » Fri May 04, 2018 9:29 pm

ST Graveyard wrote:Sign me up for a TT and Mega STe box!

Also, I make the boxes for the cables myself, if this will ever become reality, I need quite a bit of those as well ;) and what about the small boxes for the mouse itself?


I think the main practice was to sell the mouse without the STM1 box with these. I definitely didn't have a boxed mouse with my very fist 520 STfm.
I think you can find more boxed mice with the original 520STs. This probably something that changed over time and region.
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Postby ICS » Sat May 05, 2018 7:53 am

I bought a few NEW ST's back in the 80's and 90's, and none of them came with a boxed mouse.
IIRC, the mouse was in a plastic bag inside a larger undecorated box that also contained the
manuals, floppy disks and cables.

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Postby ST Graveyard » Sat May 05, 2018 11:12 am

Very good point! My 520 st has the boxed mouse and that is the only one!
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Postby AngryInca » Wed May 09, 2018 7:42 pm

Hi - first post, but only because I've registered to say I'd like to order a box if they go into production!

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Postby Robson » Thu May 10, 2018 6:57 am

AngryInca wrote:Hi - first post, but only because I've registered to say I'd like to order a box if they go into production!


Great. I keep this post updated. There are many other good stuff here to browse.
What's your location? As I said it's worth checking postage costs.

I can't send them flat packed anymore because:
1. I don't have the option.
2. will come with inserts anyway.

Still waiting for couple of quotes from printers.
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Postby AngryInca » Tue May 15, 2018 3:08 pm

Robson wrote:
AngryInca wrote:Hi - first post, but only because I've registered to say I'd like to order a box if they go into production!


Great. I keep this post updated. There are many other good stuff here to browse.
What's your location? As I said it's worth checking postage costs.

I can't send them flat packed anymore because:
1. I don't have the option.
2. will come with inserts anyway.

Still waiting for couple of quotes from printers.


I'm in the UK. Where are they being posted from?

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Postby Atariguy33 » Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:47 am

I'd be interested in one if shipping doesn't cost more than the box. I'm located in the US.

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Postby Robson » Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:14 pm

Atariguy33 wrote:I'd be interested in one if shipping doesn't cost more than the box. I'm located in the US.


Unfortunately from experience (falcon boxes) shipping starts from around £30 to US if I remember correctly.
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Postby alexh » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:48 pm

Did you get enough numbers to send it off for production? (Fingers crossed)

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Postby Robson » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:57 pm

Not really.

I might do it either way but due to various reasons this is now pushed back .
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Postby alexh » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:14 pm

Ok, but because I want a couple if you return I'd be prepared to share 50:50 the NRE costs of making them. It would halve your risk/loss.

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Postby Robson » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:40 pm

alexh wrote:Ok, but because I want a couple if you return I'd be prepared to share 50:50 the NRE costs of making them. It would halve your risk/loss.


Thanks, I keep this in mind.
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Re: Atari 520/1040 ST F/FM/E repro boxes - In the making

Postby KLund1 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:56 pm

I'm still interested in 1 for my STE.
UPDATED: Falcon 030(FX-1)(CF int & removable SD), MSTE 4+PS3000 4160STE 2.06+HDFD STacy4-internal-USD 1040STFM+I.B.Driver-5.25"FDD 1040STF 1040ST 520ST-AdSpeed 400-48k 800+810x2+820+822+825+830+835+850, 800XL+IndusGT 600XL 130XE+XF551x2 Portfolio 1200XL APE(Warp+32in1 OS SuperVideo 2.1 256k RAMBO)+1050x2 USD'd+SIO2PC, PC1+PCH204+PCM124+PCF554x2


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