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Marijuana Mail 0.1.75

Postby gregoryMJM » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:03 am

It's been 16 years, so you might not even remember my simple e-mail client for Atari ST, but here comes an unexpected update.

Changes in version 0.1.75:

* messages are sent using 587 SMTP port (instead of 25)
* SMTP authentication is finally supported by the setup utility
* messages can be archived in the mbox format (instead of txt)
* downloaded messages are ignored (even if you delete them from your Atari)
* STinG dialer control is removed (no one really uses dial-up any more, right?)
* a lot of old bugs are fixed
* a lot of new bugs are introduced

You don't remember MJM, do you? It's been a while (do people even live that long?), so you may want to read a review of one of the previous versions. Also, here are the key features:

* minimal system requirements (works fine on Atari ST with 1MB RAM, TOS 1.0 and a floppy drive)
* external setup utility (so the main application is smaller)
* GUI setup (no need to edit any user-hostile config files)
* build-in Editor (no need to load an external one from a floppy)
* build-in Contact List
* up to 9 separate user profiles

MJM does work (and has always worked) on a real hardware: stock Atari ST with 1MB RAM and TOS 1.0, no hard drive. STinG is required for the Internet connection to work, as well as some kind of Ethernet interface (I have tested it with NetUSBee on a real Atari and with D-Link DUB‑E100 on MiST). It also works fine with MagiC multitasking system - back in 2002 I was using it daily on my Atari TT with MagiC 6.2.

Note that MJM does *not* support SSL, so it cannot be used with the e-mail servers that force encryption, such as GMail or iCloud.

The setup utility makes it possible to switch between English and Polish language versions. Unfortunately, I have lost the Spanish RSC file, but still have the French one, so I'll try to add it in a next update. Also, the English documentation is not really finished yet.

It's still a beta version (even after 20 years...), does not have much error handling and has problems with complex MIME messages. But hey, at least you may use e-mail on a computer made 30 years ago.

http://atari.net.pl/mjm-en

Oh, and since this is my first post on this forum: hi everyone :)

Anyway, due to the name of the application this post is very likely going to be automatically marked as spam, so you won't actually have a chance to read any of this. So, I don't suppose there was really a point to write it at all. I tried, though! ;)
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Re: Marijuana Mail 0.1.75

Postby Cyprian » Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:39 am

pamiętamy, pamiętamy :)
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Re: Marijuana Mail 0.1.75

Postby joska » Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:44 am

I remember Marijuana Mail :) I used it on my STE back in the day before everybody got laptops. Had an STE set up at my parent's place so I could get online when visiting them. IIRC I did not use it on my Falcon as there were some problems when running under MiNT, looking forward to test the new version.
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Postby dhedberg » Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:04 am

Welcome back! :-)
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Re: Marijuana Mail 0.1.75

Postby jury » Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:10 am

I liked mjm, nice that its updated!

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Re: Marijuana Mail 0.1.75

Postby mikro » Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:33 am

What a nostalgia hit. :-) Welcome back! Would be cool to have SSL support -- I'm not sure whether there is another Atari email client able to read GMail etc messages? Ideally via IMAP?

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Re: Marijuana Mail 0.1.75

Postby joska » Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:53 am

Troll can access gmail via imap.
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Re: Marijuana Mail 0.1.75

Postby mzry » Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:14 pm

Yeah I got Troll working with SSL. You just need to install PolarSSL on your machine which is available on the Troll website. I was surprised actually because I had been asking for years if we had an SSL capable e-mail client! Even advanced/oldschool Atarians didn't even know. I only realised by actually browsing the Troll site and seeing SSL support listed lol.
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Re: Marijuana Mail 0.1.75

Postby vido » Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:44 pm

I also remember mjm :)
Welcome back!
Good email client is always welcome :)

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Re: Marijuana Mail 0.1.75

Postby gregoryMJM » Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:48 am

OK, guess what I forgot to include on the English page…?

The actual DOWNLOAD LINK!

Fixed that, and also updated the English resource file, as some things were left untranslated.

joska wrote:there were some problems when running under MiNT


I haven't tested it under MiNT yet, just plain TOS (on a real hardware, 520ST with 1MB RAM and TOS 1.0) and MagiC 6.2 (on MiST). I suppose there may be problems with those new AES-es (other than N.AES).
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Re: Marijuana Mail 0.1.75

Postby Moulinaie » Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:11 pm

gregoryMJM wrote:It's been 16 years, so you might not even remember my simple e-mail client for Atari ST, but here comes an unexpected update.

Changes in version 0.1.75:



Hi!

I tested MJM on a MegaSTE, TOS2.06 and STING 1.26.

It works when receiving mails.
But I can't send them...

I get "RESET received from a remote host"
Then "EOF received from a remote host" again and again.
I have to cancel the operation.

It's a good program for a simple machine as the MegaSTE, fast and light.

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Re: Marijuana Mail 0.1.75

Postby Rajah Lone » Sat Jun 02, 2018 7:46 pm

joska wrote:Troll can access gmail via imap.

Not anymore. The OAuth 2.0 need to be supported (authentification method after SSL/TLS Handshake).

Welcome back for MJM! If enough memory, and a little modifications in the source code, MJM can do SSL using PolarSSL.ldg.

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Re: Marijuana Mail 0.1.75

Postby gregoryMJM » Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:13 am

Moulinaie wrote:It works when receiving mails.
But I can't send them...


What mail server do you use? If you could send me just the SMTP server address, it would help me to check some things.
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Re: Marijuana Mail 0.1.75

Postby Moulinaie » Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:31 pm

gregoryMJM wrote:
Moulinaie wrote:It works when receiving mails.
But I can't send them...


What mail server do you use? If you could send me just the SMTP server address, it would help me to check some things.


Sure, I'm in France using smtp.orange.fr
Thanks for your help.

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Re: Marijuana Mail 0.1.75

Postby joska » Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:16 pm

Moulinaie wrote:But I can't send them...


I can't send mail either, seems like MJM doesn't support SMTP authentication which is required by my ISP.

There are also some minor issues with the GUI (default buttons doesn't respond to mouse, need to use the Return key) but other than that it seems to be working just fine with MiNT, XaAES and GlueSTiK.
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Re: Marijuana Mail 0.1.75

Postby gregoryMJM » Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:25 pm

Moulinaie wrote:Sure, I'm in France using smtp.orange.fr

joska wrote:I can't send mail either


Could you check this one?
http://atari.net.pl/pliki/mjm-0175a.zip

joska wrote:There are also some minor issues with the GUI (default buttons doesn't respond to mouse, need to use the Return key) but other than that it seems to be working just fine with MiNT, XaAES and GlueSTiK.


Thanx for checking that! What about the pop-up menus, do they work fine? I mean the one that appears when you click a message icon to change its status, or the one that opens when you click the Outgoing Messages/Incoming Messages folder?
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Re: Marijuana Mail 0.1.75

Postby Moulinaie » Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:14 pm

gregoryMJM wrote:Could you check this one?
http://atari.net.pl/pliki/mjm-0175a.zip



Same behaviour : reading is ok, sending leads to the RESET received from server.
On the MegaSTE, the popups and buttons are fine.

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Re: Marijuana Mail 0.1.75

Postby gregoryMJM » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:10 am

Moulinaie wrote:Same behaviour : reading is ok, sending leads to the RESET received from server.


Try this one: http://atari.net.pl/pliki/mjm-0175a2.zip
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Re: Marijuana Mail 0.1.75

Postby Moulinaie » Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:25 pm

gregoryMJM wrote:
Moulinaie wrote:Same behaviour : reading is ok, sending leads to the RESET received from server.


Try this one: http://atari.net.pl/pliki/mjm-0175a2.zip


Well...
Looks like....

IT WORKS !!!!!!!

Congratulations.
I can send and receive.

Is there a french translation of your program? If not, I can do it...

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Re: Marijuana Mail 0.1.75

Postby joska » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:35 pm

Found some time to test this on my Milan running MiNT/XaAES. Buttons are the same, buttons does not respond to mouse clicks, only keyboard navigation. Dropdown buttons/menus are fine.

I also noticed that MJM's AV-buffer is allocated in private memory, which cause ST-Guide to be killed when you use the help-function in MJM.
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Re: Marijuana Mail 0.1.75

Postby Moulinaie » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:48 am

gregoryMJM wrote:
Moulinaie wrote:Same behaviour : reading is ok, sending leads to the RESET received from server.


Try this one: http://atari.net.pl/pliki/mjm-0175a2.zip


Hello again,

tested on a TT with Mint 1.19 and MyAES 0.97, works well ! (send receive).
Buttons work both with mouse and keyboard.

Some issues with the redraws as you can see on this screencopy:
mjm.jpeg


The different windows leave their borders on the screen and, at the top left, you can see the menu that does not appear with its normal grey background, only the words are copied directly on the screen.
The menu is normal most of the time, but sometimes it appears as I showed you.

A problem with MyAES? Or with MJM?

Guillaume.
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Re: Marijuana Mail 0.1.75

Postby gregoryMJM » Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:36 pm

MJM is disabling the whole menu bar (the MJM, File and Help objects) when any pop-up menu is opened (Outgoing/Incoming Messages,message status). It works OK in TOS and MagiC, maybe MyAES doesn't handle it? It's a purely aesthetic function, so I'll remove it in the next version.

I wonder why the left icons have a white background...? Never seen this with MagiC.

Dialog windows (MJM Info, Preferences, New Message...) are displayed as modal dialogs. I suppose the new AESes may not like them, as they aren't really multitasking friendly. Also, for aesthetic reasons, I have modified their borders. Possibly MyAES assumes default borders and does not redraw things correctly, but I hope I can fix that simply by reserving a slightly bigger area before opening a modal dialog.

Moulinaie wrote:Is there a french translation of your program? If not, I can do it...


It would be great! MJ-SETUP.RSC is already partly translated.
Here are the latest RSC+HRD files: http://atari.net.pl/pliki/mjmrsc.zip

joska wrote:I also noticed that MJM's AV-buffer is allocated in private memory, which cause ST-Guide to be killed when you use the help-function in MJM.


Thanx for checking!

Right, memory protection. Never had it in TOS :)
That's pity MiST does not reimplement 68030.
I'll fix that buffer in the next version.
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