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Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Freeware

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:53 pm
by bj
Great stuff! Many thanks Dan. I'll look forward to giving this a try.

Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Freeware

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:48 pm
by BlankVector
Excellent! I hope that other software will follow this good example.

Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Freeware

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:30 pm
by Rustynutt
Many many thanks for the "continued" support over the years Dan :)
Big thanks to Tenox for following through, that effort is very much appreciated!

You two pick up your favorite brew and celebrate!
Seasonediron :)

Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Freeware

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:57 pm
by Dal
:oops: Ummmmm.... Is there somewhere we can report bugs? :oops:

Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Freeware

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:16 pm
by Atari74user
Happy to have the originals of these, but thank you very much Dan and Tenox. Haven't been to this site for a while, but looking nice, clean, and minimal, unlike some which seem to take a leaf out of the Homer Simpson school of web design!
Cheers! :cheers:

:megaphone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azl5jxcXCZk

Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Freeware

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:30 pm
by dhedberg
Wonderful! Thank you!
Is this a one-time release or will Geneva and/or NeoDesk be further developed by Gribnif software?

Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Freeware

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:58 pm
by nagual
Thanks a lot:-)

Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Freeware

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:50 pm
by cyberish
huge!! thank you!

Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Freeware

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:00 pm
by tuxie

Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Freeware

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:02 pm
by DarkLord
Glad to see this done and I donated to the Gribnif page but I sure
wish it was in a native format instead of .ST... :(

Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Freeware

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:58 pm
by spiny
DarkLord wrote:Glad to see this done and I donated to the Gribnif page but I sure
wish it was in a native format instead of .ST... :(



'unpack' it in an emulator.

Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Freeware

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:27 pm
by Atarieterno
DarkLord wrote:Glad to see this done and I donated to the Gribnif page but I sure
wish it was in a native format instead of .ST... :(


+1.

OmniFlop for PC and the image .ST is converted in a native format.

Regards.

Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Donationware

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:52 pm
by Gribnif
@dimfil:
I see on the downloads section that you mention a "Neodesk Icon Disk". But I cannot find a link for that.

Right you are. I had thought the icons were in the disk image, but they are not. And now I'm having trouble finding them. I'll have to look around some more.

@mikro:
EDIT: There's a typo on the download page, it's not NeoDesk 4.08 but 4.06 (yes, I've installed it already! :)

Thanks for catching that. I have updated the web page and the name of the ZIP file.

@Dal:
Ummmmm.... Is there somewhere we can report bugs?

You can PM them to me here, if you like. I can't make any guarantees as to how long they will take to fix, though. This is purely a spare time endeavor.

@dhedberg:
Is this a one-time release or will Geneva and/or NeoDesk be further developed by Gribnif software?

My hope is to release occasional updates and, more importantly, the source code, so you can all compile your own and contribute fixes.

Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Donationware

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:59 pm
by Gribnif
I also just checked the PayPal account, and I have to give a big "Thank You!" to everyone who has donated. It really is appreciated.

Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Donationware

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:37 pm
by LuigiThirty
I haven't used NeoDesk, just TeraDesk. Looking forward to giving NeoDesk a go here tonight. :)

Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Donationware

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:57 pm
by darwinmac
Dan,

Thanks so much for releasing Neodesk 4 and Geneva. It definitely brings back nostalgic memories. I was happy to donate to the Gribnif "tip jar" for the memories that your products brought to me when I was an active ST user.

Bob C

Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Freeware

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:12 am
by tenox
Gaiyan wrote:This is awesome! Thanks Dan! I have now declared victory at change.org. Thanks to all who signed the petition. https://www.change.org/p/dan-wilga-open ... u/22377488


Thank you for making the petition. I think it was the tipping point for Dan convincing him to do it.

Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Donationware

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:13 am
by Frank B
Awesome :) Magic next? :)

Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Donationware

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:47 am
by joska
Gribnif wrote:My hope is to release occasional updates and, more importantly, the source code, so you can all compile your own and contribute fixes.


Great stuff :) There are some things I'd like to fix/change, one of them is to get it running on my Milan060. Are you still using PureC? Or have you switched to another compiler?

Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Donationware

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:41 am
by Neurotoxic
joska wrote:
Gribnif wrote:My hope is to release occasional updates and, more importantly, the source code, so you can all compile your own and contribute fixes.


Great stuff :) There are some things I'd like to fix/change, one of them is to get it running on my Milan060. Are you still using PureC? Or have you switched to another compiler?


I also would like to use Geneva on my Milan040. Does anybody know if the last version of Geneva that was released is runing on a 68040 CPU? I think that Geneva only supported the 68000 and 68030 CPU and not the 68040 or 68060 CPU?

Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Donationware

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:47 am
by bj
I tried to install Geneva on Steem 3.9.4 but it reports "Geneva Disk B - Extras" is in an unrecognised format. Disk A is recognised.
Downloaded Disk B again in case it had been corrupted -- same result Steem can't recognise it or open it.
I don't have Hatari installed yet. Can anyone confirm that they have installed Geneva Disk B using Hatari on a PC?
Any chance anyone can unpack "Geneva Disk B - Extras.st" and upload the files here so I can put them on a disk created by Steem?

Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Donationware

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:09 pm
by beel1
bj wrote:I tried to install Geneva on Steem 3.9.4 but it reports "Geneva Disk B - Extras" is in an unrecognised format. Disk A is recognised.
Downloaded Disk B again in case it had been corrupted -- same result Steem can't recognise it or open it.
I don't have Hatari installed yet. Can anyone confirm that they have installed Geneva Disk B using Hatari on a PC?
Any chance anyone can unpack "Geneva Disk B - Extras.st" and upload the files here so I can put them on a disk created by Steem?

I was able to open it in Steem SSE 3.8.2

Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Donationware

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:17 pm
by LuigiThirty
My HxC opened Disk B.

Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Donationware

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:32 pm
by Gribnif
joska wrote:
Gribnif wrote:My hope is to release occasional updates and, more importantly, the source code, so you can all compile your own and contribute fixes.


Great stuff :) There are some things I'd like to fix/change, one of them is to get it running on my Milan060. Are you still using PureC? Or have you switched to another compiler?


Yes, I am still using Pure C. I don't think (trying to remember from 25 years ago) there is a lot of CPU-dependent code, though. If you send me stack traces/disassemblies surrounding crashes, I can also look into it.

Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Donationware

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:26 pm
by bj
RE Geneva Master Disk B & Steem
"I was able to open it in Steem SSE 3.8.2
Thanks that was very helpful.
I was able to open the disk in Steem 3.8.1 so I installed Geneva on to a Gemdos drive under that emulator and also created a floppy disk under Steem & copied the files from disk B onto it.

Switched to Steem 3.9.4 and Geneva boots up just fine. Tried to access my newly created copy of Master Disk B and this version will recognise
this disk and will open some but not all of the folders on it. I guess there's a problem with this version of Steem.