Hooking up Atari to PC, best program ?

[musashi5150]

I already have a nullmodem cable and I'm not too fussed about the speed (it's just for backing up etc) so I'd rather stick to serial.

STING sounds too fancy for my needs - just a vanilla comms program for the ST (like NComm on Amiga) would be fine.

[MiggyMog]

I agree the Crossdos route is best.

Don't do what I did back in the day & make your own ST > Amiga Serial connection and then use AMOS/STOS to make a crappy program to send the files across

I still have the cable somewhere & part of the dodgy STOS prog...

What was that BBS Prog STF gave us Vanterm or summit?

[Kastle]

Is there a Ghostlink alternative to Linux, or any software I could connect my Ubuntu to ST (or vice versa, to be precise) with cables, that plain computers stores sell.

[Lando_C]

What I do is I use a terminal emulator on the ST, and run a getty on the ubuntu serial port as you would if you had a serial terminal on it, (see the text-terminal-howto). Then, when you have managed to log in to a shell from the ST into the PC (use the vt52 emulator from the st-basic disc in worst case, or any good communication program of your choice), use lrzsz to zmodem files across the line, and xyz.prg on the atari end. you probably want STZIP as well, and zip on the unixbox, so you can pack whole directories of stuff into single files.

[030falcon030]

I like how the pc drive comes up as a hard disk, but is there a way to get a program that does this with a Linux pc? Also would be interested to know can I do the same thing from my Falcon to st (like so I can see the falcon like a hard disk on the st) because my st hard disk is quite small.
Cheers

[LeeAnn]

My hubby has an Atari st 4meg and he wants to hook up the Time win98 old computer/pc to it, if at all possible. From reading a few comments here I think it may be a goer the trouble is how in plain english with subtitles & diagrams. The Atari lead is a din connection, do I put that into the back of the pc hard drive? as I cant see anywhere else! Does the pc when booted up recognise the Atari connection or do I have to somehow re-programme the pc. I am a real novice here and would appreciate all the help, step by step you could give. I don't understand the terminology you use, but with help I will improve. Hubby would like to set it up as he uses it for music creation with notator, and he has a Mackie hard drive recorder smte to the Atari through a Mackie mixer....or something like that, and the Atari monitor is very dull and it's a struggle to read the screen so that is why he would like to attach the pc. If the pc and Atari could be attached successfully, is there any other benefit to that union, by incorporating the pc hard drive? Oh! and does the pc recognise the Atari icons & stuff, or with windows 98 installed will it get totally confused.
Thank you all in anticipation of your reply
LeeAnn

[030falcon030]

Just follow the instructions in GHOST.txt in the GHOSTLNK folder in the zip file.
Everything should work automatically.
The cable should plug into the top serial port at the back of the pc (the one just below mouse + keyboard)

[LeeAnn]

[color=#804000]"Just follow the instructions in GHOST.txt in the GHOSTLNK folder in the zip file.
Everything should work automatically.
The cable should plug into the top serial port at the back of the pc (the one just below mouse + keyboard)"[/color]

Thank you FALCON for the info and I will take on board and try to implement them & read the rest of the messages here for guidance.....Many thanks for your help on this...will get back to you as to how it goes...may take a bit longer than you guys who know what your doing!
LeeAnn

[LeeAnn]

Where do I find GHOST.TXT is it a programme that I download and run, I have looked on the internet and found a lot of information stating GHOST something or another, but there are so many I am in a sea of confusion, is there a definitive area for atari/ghost & pc compatibility downloads & help
you must think I am a real twit and I do appreciate the help
Thanks guys
LeeAnn

[keili]

Here it is.
Just ask, if you have more questions or problems. We're here to help .

[bullis1]

:?: Where do I find GHOST.TXT is it a programme that I download and run, I have looked on the internet and found a lot of information stating GHOST something or another, but there are so many I am in a sea of confusion, is there a definitive area for atari/ghost & pc compatibility downloads & help
you must think I am a real twit and I do appreciate the help
Thanks guys
LeeAnn

You can find it in this very thread, on page 1 in the first post. There will be a little box that says "Attachments" and has a link to download "ghostlnk102b.zip." When you download and unzip that file, you will most likely find GHOST.TXT within.

I do not think you are a twit by the way, just an amateur

[wongck]

Just a serial connection plus some terminal programs on both side.
On ST, any good terminal proggies with Zmodem.
Wintel comes with hyperterm (Zmodem included).

[yerzmyey]

I was looking throughout these methodes but I'm still not sure about one thing -
do all these way require having HDD on ST?
Actually I use Falcon for MSA transfering but just in case (well, poo happens) I would like to have a good methode of MSA transfering for pretty pure ST 1Mb. Hm.
But maybe that http://www.bergstrom.se/ghostlnk/ is enough after all?

[wongck]

Linking via serial does not need HDD. May be a Ramdisk will do.

[yerzmyey]

Well, after some researches I decided to buy an interface for emulating FDD. You plug it into the PC via USB.
We will see. If I have any results, I'll write about it.

[wongck]

Well, after some researches I decided to buy an interface for emulating FDD. You plug it into the PC via USB.
We will see. If I have any results, I'll write about it.

Yes, that is a good solution

[leehanken]

What terminal program should I be looking for, and where? I need a *good* vt100 or better emulation, with 8-bit support (latin1) and preferrably auto-transfer zmodem, or auto-call XYZ.TTP capability. Dialers and such are irrelevant as this is on a nullmodem cable. ON a DOS PC i would use MS-Kermit, but the kermit's iäve found for atari only does the transfer protocol and dont include the otherwise excellent terminal emulator..

The little known terminal emulator TAZ worked admirably for me for this purpose.

[AB Positive]

Heya, I've run into a wall in my own Ghostlink setup. I have everything working perfectly, and in fact made a few disks... but I"m using an old windows 98 PC I borrowed off a friend. I'd like to have it work on my XP machine. I tried the program in the first post but every time I hit "Update" my machine reboots and reverts to it's old setup.

I tried without the program and actually did have it read my C: drive, but then both froze. There's a lot of files and folders in my C: though (as in, in the root directory... there's a lot for it to read just to list the directory). Could that be an issue?

I've gotten Amiga Explorer to work on here, and SIO2PC works great via serial as well. Any ST masters have hints as to what I'm doing wrong?

[rocket-dog]

Funny you should post this this week......

Does the PC have a serial port on its motherboard? Or are you using a USB-serial dongle? Sometimes the latter can be temperamental; I am lucky that mine works with XP on a Dell 3100 tower. Some here said it wouldn't work so the evidence suggests it is all depends on your set-up.

If you want to use Ghostlink on WinXP I would suggest you find yourself a copy of Win98SE. And then download VMWare Player. I find the latter is better at finding ports than VirtualBox. Neither though appear to like USB-serial dongles.

This week I have been using this set up to transfer files off a Jornada Pocket PC that I acquired. It was so successful I was going to have a go with Ghostlink next.

The only trouble with Win98SE on VMware is that you can't use shared folders. So I found a driver off the internet to allow me to use a USB memory stick with Win98SE. I can now drag my files to that drive, and once I have stopped the VM I can get at them through Linux (which I use.)

I will check back here to see if you have responded.

If I can do this so can you as I am not the brightest candle on the cake.

[AB Positive]

Actually - using straight serial. Oddly, I have a 9 month old desktop with a real serial port.

haven't gone the VMPlayer route... I don't suppose DOSBox is good enough for this is it? Already have that installed

[DrCoolZic]

Whaooo still some interest in this 2003 thread

For info I am am still an happy user of of PARCP running on Win98SE
Never succeeded with HDD and never tried ghostlink (too slow)

[wongck]

Actually - using straight serial. Oddly, I have a 9 month old desktop with a real serial port.

Desktop may still have legacy ports. Notebooks... no more legacy ports.

[rocket-dog]

Actually - using straight serial. Oddly, I have a 9 month old desktop with a real serial port.

What make and model? Do tell.............

XP or Vista?

haven't gone the VMPlayer route... I don't suppose DOSBox is good enough for this is it? Already have that installed

VMware Player is free and very easy to set up. I use it on all my boxes. It runs surprisingly well. My humble net book (running Mint 8 ) will run a CrunchBang VM at a good pace. While Slitaz and other mini-distros run like an app'.

I never thought of trying DOSbox. I did try running WinCE Services through Wine but it wouldn't go as need a bit more, shall we say, infrastructure underneath it.

[rocket-dog]

Whaooo still some interest in this 2003 thread

For info I am am still an happy user of of PARCP running on Win98SE
Never succeeded with HDD and never tried ghostlink (too slow)

Now I have a box with a proper parallel port I am going to try PARCP. But I think I will go with the Linux version.

[DrCoolZic]

Now I have a box with a proper parallel port I am going to try PARCP. But I think I will go with the Linux version.

This is a nice solution. Did not use lately but if I remember well I think I was transferring over 100 KB/s
and UI is like Norton Commander and is very intuitive. Also handle nicely the Windows long file names.
You just have to build a special cable but if you already have a modem cable you just need to invert two wires at one of the connector... This is well explained at the PARCP site and make sure you use the proper programs to set the parallel ports to input state so you do not harm your Atari or PC ....