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Ghostlink: Alternatives?

Postby bullis1 » Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:58 pm

I was attempting to create a Ghostlink connection between my 1040ST and an old laptop computer. Both computers are working properly and have their serial ports configured. I followed the instructions that came with Ghostlink perfectly and I couldn't get it working. I tried all available baud rates. I can get the drive mounted in TOS but when I try to open it I just get the busy bee forever until I hold ctrl-alt-shift to abort.

What I would like to know is if there are any other programs that do the same thing as ghostlink (sort of virtual drive connection). They can use serial, parallel (maybe MIDI?) or any port you can find standard on ST/PC.

Also, maybe someone knows what is wrong with Ghostlink or has more detailed instructions. Thanks in advance for any help!
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Re: Ghostlink: Alternatives?

Postby nativ » Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:33 pm

Hi,
Parralel Copy
Little Net (MIDI?)
Mike Net?
Harlekin 3 St user cover disk has some file transfer? I vaguely recall.
Or try this serial-Usb lead solution.

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Re: Ghostlink: Alternatives?

Postby bullis1 » Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:49 pm

nativ wrote:Hi,
Parralel Copy
Little Net (MIDI?)
Mike Net?
Harlekin 3 St user cover disk has some file transfer? I vaguely recall.
Or try this serial-Usb lead solution.
Have fun!!!
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Yes, but these do not do the same thing as Ghostlink do they? I would like to be able to mount the laptop as a drive or folder under TOS, like in Ghostlink.

Thanks for the suggestions anyway, but I'm not sure they're what I'm after.

By the way the laptop has no USB dataport. Only serial, parallel, and some less useful ones like IR and PCMCIA/cardbus or whatever. It also has a modem.
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Re: Ghostlink: Alternatives?

Postby PaulB » Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:43 pm

Well myself and many other people here have had Ghostlink working perfectly with a null modem cable. I'm thinking that if you try another program you'll still have the same problems because the original prob between windows & Ghostlink wasn't solved. It's usually a firewall issue but since I don't know what os you're using I can't say for sure. A bee mouse suggests the Atari part of Ghostlink is waiting for comms but isn't receiving anything which to me would suggest a problem with the pc side.

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Re: Ghostlink: Alternatives?

Postby bullis1 » Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:05 pm

Ghostlink is an MS-DOS program. Therefore, I am using an MS-DOS (also can be booted into Win98) laptop. There isn't a firewall, and I'm sure that I'm using the correct port (Com1). I am also using a brand new null-modem cable, without any adapters. What should I be looking for on the PC side that could be going wrong? Also, what is the latest version of Ghostlink available?

Thanks for the help so far.
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Re: Ghostlink: Alternatives?

Postby christos » Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:07 pm

Different baud rates between the two computers.
Wrong mounting on the atari side
broken serial ports on either machine
Ghostlink works fine in XP here
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Re: Ghostlink: Alternatives?

Postby CopperCAT » Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:17 pm

Maybe you can try the connection with some terminal program first by typing some text on both machines?

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Re: Ghostlink: Alternatives?

Postby bullis1 » Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:27 pm

It's obvious that I need to do more testing outside of Ghostlink. Thanks guys!
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Re: Ghostlink: Alternatives?

Postby bullis1 » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:35 pm

Well, I did some more tests with my gear. The laptop and ST serial ports work fine and the null-modem cable works fine, but I can't establish a connection with Ghostlink. Hmmm... I'm stumped now.
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Re: Ghostlink: Alternatives?

Postby nativ » Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:33 pm

Hi,
Not used Ghostlink, what are it's key features?
What are you up to that requires them?
Atari to Atari Littlenet's Midi file transfer was quite good for what I was doing. . .!

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Re: Ghostlink: Alternatives?

Postby bullis1 » Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:38 pm

nativ wrote:Hi,
Not used Ghostlink, what are it's key features?
What are you up to that requires them?
Atari to Atari Littlenet's Midi file transfer was quite good for what I was doing. . .!
Bye


Ghostlink allows you to mount drives on a PC as drives on your ST. That means you could be running a tracker and load some instruments from your PC harddrive or easily transfer/manage files. You could save your work to a drive on your PC, or load MSA files from a big DVD archive directly into a RAM drive on your ST. It's the drive-mounting feature I'm after mostly, not just the ability to transfer files (that's easy).

What I'm up to that calls for this feature is mostly loading sounds, instruments, midi riffs, etc from my big archive of previous work on my PC directly onto my ST. Also, I was really bored one day and I have an old laptop lying around so I decided to set this up :D
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Re: Ghostlink: Alternatives?

Postby nativ » Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:42 am

Koola,
What was the last version of Ghostlink? I can find 1.02.
Sounds interesting . . . . . .
I take it this can be happily used to connect an St to a Falcon, to use Scsi devices?

thanks

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Re: Ghostlink: Alternatives?

Postby charles » Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:37 pm

i am very technical bullis, i am willing to try along with yoiu....give me a copy of ghostlink and i will go step by step , and see if it works on my system,,, my pc allready reads atari disks so i have no problems ,,,,,what cable is used by ghostlink????a printer cable?? with 25 pin??????

anyhow i too will take on the challenge of setting up ghostlink..

charles

plan to use on ste with athalon pc ...
more room to error
but makes things alittle bit faster....

i wrote a formatter for the atari
couple years ago when xp was released
that makes atari disk readable on pc , so this ghoslink thing is just fictionary at the moment.
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Re: Ghostlink: Alternatives?

Postby bullis1 » Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:56 pm

I can't remember where I got Ghostlink. I found it on my harddrive. If you google it you should find it: http://uml.darkspace.org.uk/mirrors/Ata ... ink-v1.02/
To use it, all you need is the programs in the zip file and a "null modem cable" on your serial ports. It seems very straight forward and it has a readme file that explains what to do.

nativ wrote:Koola,
What was the last version of Ghostlink? I can find 1.02.
Sounds interesting . . . . . .
I take it this can be happily used to connect an St to a Falcon, to use Scsi devices?
thanks
Ashley


I can find 1.02 as well. I don't know if it's the last version for sure.

Unfortunately 1.02 doesn't let you connect two Atari computers together. It only lets you use a PC as the slave.
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Re: Ghostlink: Alternatives?

Postby charles » Mon Jun 30, 2008 2:11 pm

where you been all weekend , did your computer not go online all weekend or something.?
so you want me to try ghostlink myself , i might ...
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Re: Ghostlink: Alternatives?

Postby bullis1 » Mon Jun 30, 2008 2:55 pm

charles wrote:where you been all weekend , did your computer not go online all weekend or something.?
so you want me to try ghostlink myself , i might ...


I take the weekends off. No work, no worries, and usually no internet. If I was posting/surfing on the weekends all the time I wouldn't have time for my hobbies or social life. That's just me though.

Ghostlink will probably work for you. It seems to work for everybody. There's just something wrong with my exact combo.
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Re: Ghostlink: Alternatives?

Postby bullis1 » Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:22 pm

Okay, so I think there is a better alternative to Ghostlink. It is HDD_DMN3 by MC Soft & Hard. I've only read about it so far but it seems that it allows you to use a PC's hard-drive under TOS by using a laplink cable (parallel port). Does anyone have any impressions about this application or know what the absolute latest version is? The MC Soft & Hard page seems to be gone now.
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Re: Ghostlink: Alternatives?

Postby PaulB » Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:55 pm

You need to make the same cable as used with PARCP. Which involves getting a parallel cable and resoldering 2 wires on one end. It's supposed to be quite fast. Well, faster than Ghostlink anyway but I've never tried it.

A diagram can be found here: http://joy.sophics.cz/parcp/parcpdoc.htm
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Re: Ghostlink: Alternatives?

Postby bullis1 » Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:07 pm

PaulB wrote:You need to make the same cable as used with PARCP. Which involves getting a parallel cable and resoldering 2 wires on one end. It's supposed to be quite fast. Well, faster than Ghostlink anyway but I've never tried it.
A diagram can be found here: http://joy.sophics.cz/parcp/parcpdoc.htm

There's no need. Any self-respecting computer user already owns a laplink cable or adapter :wink:

EDIT: Thanks for posting the program. I missed that! I have found it on the net but I didn't know if I had the latest one or not.
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Re: Ghostlink: Alternatives?

Postby jd » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:03 am

bullis1 wrote:
PaulB wrote:You need to make the same cable as used with PARCP. Which involves getting a parallel cable and resoldering 2 wires on one end. It's supposed to be quite fast. Well, faster than Ghostlink anyway but I've never tried it.
A diagram can be found here: http://joy.sophics.cz/parcp/parcpdoc.htm

There's no need. Any self-respecting computer user already owns a laplink cable or adapter :wink:

EDIT: Thanks for posting the program. I missed that! I have found it on the net but I didn't know if I had the latest one or not.


Is that the same as a symantec PCanywhere parallel cable?

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Re: Ghostlink: Alternatives?

Postby bullis1 » Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:29 pm

jd wrote:Is that the same as a symantec PCanywhere parallel cable?


I can't quite remember, but I think it was. They used a yellow laplink cable IIRC. Maybe there's a pinout or documentation somewhere online that can confirm. You could always test it out. I don't think it will do any harm unless they did some really strange things with their wiring. Use a multimeter if you don't want to risk it.

EDIT: CHECK THIS LINK!!! http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/pc ... nus_ent_br
Symantec has their wiring diagram and pinout on this page.
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Re: Ghostlink: Alternatives?

Postby jd » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:32 pm

Thanks, just quickly checking the PARCP cable requires 18 wires to be connected and the PCanywhere cable only has 16. I know it's only 2 wires to add but it's still useless as it is. :D

Ghostlink is the lazy alternative!!

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Re: Ghostlink: Alternatives?

Postby PaulB » Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:02 pm

I'm using Ghostlink at the moment and even though I have HSModem installed and everything set to 115000Kbs I can clearly see from the slave app on the pc that it transfers in 4600kb chucks per second.

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Re: Ghostlink: Alternatives?

Postby bullis1 » Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:11 pm

PaulB wrote:I'm using Ghostlink at the moment and even though I have HSModem installed and everything set to 115000Kbs I can clearly see from the slave app on the pc that it transfers in 4600kb chucks per second.


That's pretty good! What kind of ST are you using? I'm sure nothing like that is possible with the 1040's serial port but Falcon and MSTE are much more flexible right?
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Re: Ghostlink: Alternatives?

Postby PaulB » Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:19 pm

I'm using a Falcon at the mo but also achieved 115000kbs on a MegaSTE before I got the Falcon.

I think (but don't quote me on that) that a normal st/e can achieve 56000kbs but you have to use hsmodem 7 that patches the badly written TOS routines for the serial port.


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