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Time/date setting AUTO program?

Postby Fujiyama » Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:03 pm

I'm looking for an AUTO-folder program which, when installed on the boot drive of an ST without a battery-backed clock asks for the current time and date. I assume setting the clock again for each reboot is unnecessary, isn't it, so the program should know about this too.

Anything like that about? And if yes, where can I find it?

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Re: Time/date setting AUTO program?

Postby ppera » Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:29 pm

I made something like it before 18 years. But it is not Y2K compatible (only to 1999).
Certainly there is such SW. You should look some archives, for instance:

ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/atari/

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Re: Time/date setting AUTO program?

Postby nobogod » Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:37 pm

Maybe this one?
everda10.lzh Everdate v1.0, keeps the last system date/time

ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/atari/Utils/Clock/

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Re: Time/date setting AUTO program?

Postby Fujiyama » Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:40 pm

That doesn't seem to be quite what I'm looking for as it's both an ACC and a PRG which needs to be used at once.

However, I found Timeset 2.02 which seemed perfect for the job. However it turns out that it's not Y2K compatible, making it useless.

Anything similar which does work for 2008 and beyond?
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Re: Time/date setting AUTO program?

Postby Fujiyama » Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:38 pm

... alternatively, is there someone reading this who knows how to program and would be willing to make such a time-setter? I have some ideas for improvement over the one I found, but unfortunately don't know the first thing about programming.

PS: I've already tried getting in touch with the person behind the mentioned time-setter, but not surprisingly the
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Re: Time/date setting AUTO program?

Postby Mug UK » Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:43 pm

I'm sure Techie Allison hacked something to do with date/time setting but then again it might have only been the software that works with the Forget-Me-Clock II cart. It's around here somewhere .. :)
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Re: Time/date setting AUTO program?

Postby Lando_C » Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:39 pm

i use BICLOCK.TOS, it saves the last used date on the disk somewhere, and works nicely even now in 2008. It doesnt check for warmboots though, so you'd have to push enter to accept the time at each boot.
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Re: Time/date setting AUTO program?

Postby ppera » Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:55 pm

Hmm...
If I remember correct, IKBD chip counts time when machine is on.
What we need is to check it's content by program (in AUTO folder). If it is 1980, then machine was off - in that case user must enter current date, time. If there is something other, we may consider that it is current time, and we made warm reset. Program may outprint date, time for couple seconds and user can correct it after pressing some key, otherwise it will copy IKBD time to GemDOS 'clock' and exit. Of course after first run, and entering time it needs to copy it to IKBD.

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Re: Time/date setting AUTO program?

Postby Lando_C » Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:15 pm

BICLOCK does that, when warmbooted it shows the right time, but you have to press enter to accept it if it is correct.

(or wait a few seconds)
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Re: Time/date setting AUTO program?

Postby Fujiyama » Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:39 pm

I tried biclock.prg (found it here), but didn't like it.
Way too complicated.
I think using entering the time and date with the number keys is a lot quicker and easier. Being something a lot of people have to do very often it either has to be as easy as possible, or they'll skip it.

Perhaps something like this when the computer boots:

Enter today's date: DD-MM-YY

With the cursor flashing at the first "D" or inverting it.
And the user enters 280108 (from the number keys or numeric keypad) and presses return.
Then this pops up:

Enter current time: HH-MM-SS


Again, with the cursor flashing at the first "D" or inverting it.
the user enters 180500 (from the number keys or numeric keypad) and presses return.
From then on the clock starts running (and is displayed with the seconds changing) displaying the following:

Date : 28-01-2008
Time: 18:05:02

RETURN if OK
TAB to change


I suppose two versions should be made: one with the UK way of displaying the date (day-month-year) and one with the USA way of doing it (month-day-year).

PS: I don't know how most people would like this, but using the "LCD" type numbers available in the Atari ST font would be cool for entering/displaying the time.
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Re: Time/date setting AUTO program?

Postby rian_ata » Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:02 pm

I know Superboot has this option of manually inputting date and time at startup by using the numeric keypad of the keyboard.

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Re: Time/date setting AUTO program?

Postby Nyh » Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:10 pm

rian_ata wrote:I know Superboot has this option of manually inputting date and time at startup by using the numeric keypad of the keyboard.

AFAIK Superboot is not Y2k compliant.

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