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Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Freeware

Postby bj » Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:53 pm

Great stuff! Many thanks Dan. I'll look forward to giving this a try.
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Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Freeware

Postby BlankVector » Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:48 pm

Excellent! I hope that other software will follow this good example.
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Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Freeware

Postby Rustynutt » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:30 pm

Many many thanks for the "continued" support over the years Dan :)
Big thanks to Tenox for following through, that effort is very much appreciated!

You two pick up your favorite brew and celebrate!
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Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Freeware

Postby Dal » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:57 pm

:oops: Ummmmm.... Is there somewhere we can report bugs? :oops:
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Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Freeware

Postby Atari74user » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:16 pm

Happy to have the originals of these, but thank you very much Dan and Tenox. Haven't been to this site for a while, but looking nice, clean, and minimal, unlike some which seem to take a leaf out of the Homer Simpson school of web design!
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Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Freeware

Postby dhedberg » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:30 pm

Wonderful! Thank you!
Is this a one-time release or will Geneva and/or NeoDesk be further developed by Gribnif software?
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Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Freeware

Postby nagual » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:58 pm

Thanks a lot:-)

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Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Freeware

Postby cyberish » Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:50 pm

huge!! thank you!

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Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Freeware

Postby DarkLord » Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:02 pm

Glad to see this done and I donated to the Gribnif page but I sure
wish it was in a native format instead of .ST... :(
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Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Freeware

Postby spiny » Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:58 pm

DarkLord wrote:Glad to see this done and I donated to the Gribnif page but I sure
wish it was in a native format instead of .ST... :(



'unpack' it in an emulator.

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Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Freeware

Postby Atarieterno » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:27 pm

DarkLord wrote:Glad to see this done and I donated to the Gribnif page but I sure
wish it was in a native format instead of .ST... :(


+1.

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Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Donationware

Postby Gribnif » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:52 pm

@dimfil:
I see on the downloads section that you mention a "Neodesk Icon Disk". But I cannot find a link for that.

Right you are. I had thought the icons were in the disk image, but they are not. And now I'm having trouble finding them. I'll have to look around some more.

@mikro:
EDIT: There's a typo on the download page, it's not NeoDesk 4.08 but 4.06 (yes, I've installed it already! :)

Thanks for catching that. I have updated the web page and the name of the ZIP file.

@Dal:
Ummmmm.... Is there somewhere we can report bugs?

You can PM them to me here, if you like. I can't make any guarantees as to how long they will take to fix, though. This is purely a spare time endeavor.

@dhedberg:
Is this a one-time release or will Geneva and/or NeoDesk be further developed by Gribnif software?

My hope is to release occasional updates and, more importantly, the source code, so you can all compile your own and contribute fixes.

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Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Donationware

Postby Gribnif » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:59 pm

I also just checked the PayPal account, and I have to give a big "Thank You!" to everyone who has donated. It really is appreciated.

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Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Donationware

Postby LuigiThirty » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:37 pm

I haven't used NeoDesk, just TeraDesk. Looking forward to giving NeoDesk a go here tonight. :)

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Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Donationware

Postby darwinmac » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:57 pm

Dan,

Thanks so much for releasing Neodesk 4 and Geneva. It definitely brings back nostalgic memories. I was happy to donate to the Gribnif "tip jar" for the memories that your products brought to me when I was an active ST user.

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Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Freeware

Postby tenox » Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:12 am

Gaiyan wrote:This is awesome! Thanks Dan! I have now declared victory at change.org. Thanks to all who signed the petition. https://www.change.org/p/dan-wilga-open ... u/22377488


Thank you for making the petition. I think it was the tipping point for Dan convincing him to do it.

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Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Donationware

Postby Frank B » Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:13 am

Awesome :) Magic next? :)

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Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Donationware

Postby joska » Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:47 am

Gribnif wrote:My hope is to release occasional updates and, more importantly, the source code, so you can all compile your own and contribute fixes.


Great stuff :) There are some things I'd like to fix/change, one of them is to get it running on my Milan060. Are you still using PureC? Or have you switched to another compiler?
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Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Donationware

Postby Neurotoxic » Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:41 am

joska wrote:
Gribnif wrote:My hope is to release occasional updates and, more importantly, the source code, so you can all compile your own and contribute fixes.


Great stuff :) There are some things I'd like to fix/change, one of them is to get it running on my Milan060. Are you still using PureC? Or have you switched to another compiler?


I also would like to use Geneva on my Milan040. Does anybody know if the last version of Geneva that was released is runing on a 68040 CPU? I think that Geneva only supported the 68000 and 68030 CPU and not the 68040 or 68060 CPU?
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Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Donationware

Postby bj » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:47 am

I tried to install Geneva on Steem 3.9.4 but it reports "Geneva Disk B - Extras" is in an unrecognised format. Disk A is recognised.
Downloaded Disk B again in case it had been corrupted -- same result Steem can't recognise it or open it.
I don't have Hatari installed yet. Can anyone confirm that they have installed Geneva Disk B using Hatari on a PC?
Any chance anyone can unpack "Geneva Disk B - Extras.st" and upload the files here so I can put them on a disk created by Steem?
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Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Donationware

Postby beel1 » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:09 pm

bj wrote:I tried to install Geneva on Steem 3.9.4 but it reports "Geneva Disk B - Extras" is in an unrecognised format. Disk A is recognised.
Downloaded Disk B again in case it had been corrupted -- same result Steem can't recognise it or open it.
I don't have Hatari installed yet. Can anyone confirm that they have installed Geneva Disk B using Hatari on a PC?
Any chance anyone can unpack "Geneva Disk B - Extras.st" and upload the files here so I can put them on a disk created by Steem?

I was able to open it in Steem SSE 3.8.2

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Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Donationware

Postby LuigiThirty » Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:17 pm

My HxC opened Disk B.

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Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Donationware

Postby Gribnif » Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:32 pm

joska wrote:
Gribnif wrote:My hope is to release occasional updates and, more importantly, the source code, so you can all compile your own and contribute fixes.


Great stuff :) There are some things I'd like to fix/change, one of them is to get it running on my Milan060. Are you still using PureC? Or have you switched to another compiler?


Yes, I am still using Pure C. I don't think (trying to remember from 25 years ago) there is a lot of CPU-dependent code, though. If you send me stack traces/disassemblies surrounding crashes, I can also look into it.

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Re: Geneva and NeoDesk 4 Released as Donationware

Postby bj » Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:26 pm

RE Geneva Master Disk B & Steem
"I was able to open it in Steem SSE 3.8.2
Thanks that was very helpful.
I was able to open the disk in Steem 3.8.1 so I installed Geneva on to a Gemdos drive under that emulator and also created a floppy disk under Steem & copied the files from disk B onto it.

Switched to Steem 3.9.4 and Geneva boots up just fine. Tried to access my newly created copy of Master Disk B and this version will recognise
this disk and will open some but not all of the folders on it. I guess there's a problem with this version of Steem.
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